Working with Turks

[Darorinag]

Last I checked, I wasn't a spokesperson of all Armenians.

No, knowledgeable denial is not "knowing the facts and still denying the genocide." Here's a definition of denial:

"A refusal to accept or believe something, such as a doctrine or belief."

You might have knowledgeable reasons to refuse to accept a theory about the genocide. To each argument, there are two sides. And don't tell me "there is proof that the Armenian genocide took place", because that's not the point. Point is, denial doesn't necessarily refer to something that DID happen. For example, the entire world might believe in the holocaust story, but I might think that it didn't happen, and use historical facts, etc. to prove that it didn't. Some of my facts might be wrong, and even if the holocaust did really take place, I might make some knowledgeable arguments instead of just saying "screw that, there was no genocide" without supporting my claims.

[HyeJinx1984]

There's these two demons in Hell, one has been there a while and one is new. The new demon is still learning the ropes, so the older demon shows him where they keep the souls. The way they organize stuff in hell is that they have these huge pots with the names of different ethnicities on them. The new demon realizes all the pots have lids on them to keep the souls from escaping, except for one... the pot entitled "Armenians" has no lid. The newbie asks the more experienced demon "How come there's no lid on the armenian pot? aren't you afraid they will escape?" the older demon laughs and responds "Oh, they don't need a lid.. every time one tries to climb out, someone pulls him back down" or in other words "Armenians are always bringing each other down"

I just remember that joke whenever we get into stupid little bickering matches on this website... In any case, I didn't type that as pointing a finger to anyone in particular even though it seems as though I did... just something that bugs me from time to time.

And the reason i ask if there's a problem between Armenians and Jews is because I was wondering why he would have asked that question at all in the first place, and secondly because above someone made the comment that "Because, actually we dont anymore. We bash Israelis instead"... all this adds up to me asking "is there a problem between Armenians and Jews I'm not aware of?"

[patlajan]

That was a good joke. I will use it.

[HyeJinx1984]

speaking of Homo, that reminds... DAMN THERE ARE A LOT OF GAY ARMENIANS!!!!! I mean, everyone always tells me "no, no there aren't any Gay Armenians, we're better than that" and all that crap, but xxxx man, there's a crap load of gay Armenians... kinda cracks me up since we're supposed to be so against it, but there you go.

And do you really think the Holocaust didn't happen or where you just using a hypthetical example? Because, although we all know that the Genocide took place, there's MORE physical evidence that the holocaust did happen, and being the people that we are, I'd think we were more sympathetic to cultures who suffered through a genocide like we did.

[SagGal]

We hate Turks because it reminds us of the Armenian Genocide. Simple as that. Doesn't matter if they're nice or not, we hate Turks because they remind us of the Genocide and the same goes for Azeris because of what happened in Baku and etc. But do you guys honestly hate those Turks who are not educated about the Genocide and who just simply don't know about it?
I really don't see why any Armenian needs to hate a Turkish person regarding something that the person has no knowledge of. Do them a favor and teach/tell them, but don't be an a** to them.

speaking of Homo, that reminds... DAMN THERE ARE A LOT OF GAY ARMENIANS!!!!! I mean, everyone always tells me "no, no there aren't any Gay Armenians, we're better than that" and all that crap, but xxxx man, there's a crap load of gay Armenians... kinda cracks me up since we're supposed to be so against it, but there you go.

You can't have every single person in a certain ethnicity or culture think and be the same. It's ridiculous, not to mention stupid. Of course there are Armenian homosexuals. Why wouldn't there be?

[patlajan]

speaking of Homo, that reminds... DAMN THERE ARE A LOT OF GAY ARMENIANS!!!!! I mean, everyone always tells me "no, no there aren't any Gay Armenians, we're better than that" and all that crap, but xxxx man, there's a crap load of gay Armenians... kinda cracks me up since we're supposed to be so against it, but there you go.

And do you really think the Holocaust didn't happen or where you just using a hypthetical example? Because, although we all know that the Genocide took place, there's MORE physical evidence that the holocaust did happen, and being the people that we are, I'd think we were more sympathetic to cultures who suffered through a genocide like we did.

This post makes me more eager to travel to California and see this Armo hub you have developed over there. Must be quite a site.

[HyeJinx1984]

This thread has gone way off topic.. and I admit, much to my doing as well as others.. so let's try and bring it back.

Working with Turks.

Anyone else have experience in this and how do you feel we should react when approached by Turks?

[Anonymouse]

I think this would be a good time to tell you all that I just got a brand new pet Turk. He came with a scimitar but I didn't like it. He dances for treats.

[leo007]

Anyone remember that scene in the movie "Ararat" where the Turkish actor says to the Armenian guy something along the lines of: "Look the genocide was a long time ago. I had nothing to do with it, my family had nothing to do with it. We're both living in another country now, just get over it".

I'm sure that there are Turks who believe that the genocide happened and are ashamed that their people would do something like that, but the majority probably just don't care because they haven't been taught anything about it, hell a majority of Armenians these days don't even care.

[spiral]

I remember once I bought something at a kiosk, and after making the purchase, I learned that the lady who sold it to me (the owner, I assume) was a Turk. I felt so guilty. I threw away whatever it was that I bought.