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  • #41
    Originally posted by Anonymouse
    No offense, but anyone who calls Kemal as a "great man", let alone ANY Statist, a "great man", needs to rethink their thought process. "Democracy" is the stupidest catch word. He made Turkey into a Nation-State. Nation-States are evil.
    yea.. ok, touché... he was a politician after all. how "great" could he be?... loll but what i mean is that he took power away from religious fanaticism & dictatorship in favor of democracy..... i mean yea, its not like democracy necessarily means its like a walk in the park on a nice day, but i mean, meg khoskov, he took the power out of the ppl's hands who committed the Genocide.. there... isnt that a good thing? hehehe

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    • #42
      Originally posted by nairi
      If the embargo is such a threat to Armenian economy, how come Armenia is doing better and better economically? Fair enough, any country is better off without an embargo, but at this stage it's an excuse for the Armenian government to be corrupt. As far as I can see.

      You'd be surprised at how much of our language we share with Turkish and v.v.
      its more than just language.. its entire chunks of culture!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by HyeJinx1984
        "I tell ya, it ain't no joke workin' in them septic tanks, but I'll be damned if I ain't got some interestin' turd stories to tell..."
        Your boss be one sadistic a-hole. You're not supposed to go IN the tank itself.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ardenik
          he took the power out of the ppl's hands who committed the Genocide.. there... isnt that a good thing? hehehe
          If you think the people responsible for the genocide were not recycled into the Turkish government, you would be strongly mistaken.

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          • #45
            I have a question, why was 10DarkOmens banned again?
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ardenik
              oh my God, u couldnt be wronger & it really scares me that some ppl think that's true

              u should really do a little more research before accusing somebody of such a horrible crime. Kemal Ataturk was a GREAT man. he alone is the one who is responsible for pulling turkey out of its muslim-fanatic state. he completely reformed the country, scrapped the arabic alphabet & used latin letters for a new standard turkish alphabet. he threw religious fanatics out of power & made turkey into a democratic country. obviously, they are still generally barbarians & still have a long way to go as a country & as a people (they can start by recognizing the Genocide) but u have absolutely no right to accuse Ataturk of being responsible in ANY way for the Armenian Genocide.

              Thats like saying it was Mesrob Mashtots' fault Armenians didnt have an alphabet until they did.

              Well hellloooooooooooooooooooo, r u sleeping or what. Kemal was one of the organizers of the Genocide. He contributed for Turkey not for us. Jesus, what else am i gonna read that u love turks also?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by fIReBuRntInHeLL
                Well hellloooooooooooooooooooo, r u sleeping or what. Kemal was one of the organizers of the Genocide. He contributed for Turkey not for us. Jesus, what else am i gonna read that u love turks also?
                no. ataturk became in charge of turkey after the fall of the gencturk party & ittihad ve terakke commitee. he reformed the country. he threw the radical religious views out the window, giving women more freedom to dress normally & participate as members of society, he changed the official alphabet from arabic letters to latin letters. he pushed turkey far forward in terms of national development in every field.

                the 3 head honchos of the Young Turks were: Mustafa Talaat Pasha, Cemal Enver Pasha & the 3rd dude, i just remember it was something Cemal.. anyways... no Kemal Ataturk.

                what else am i gonna read that u love turks also?
                well i certainly dont hate them.
                & u know what that is? that's freedom.. thats moral freedom. because when i meet turks & they turn out to be nice ppl, i dont break my head over it like u guys do, all confused... "why do i like this dude? i should want to kill him.." no u shouldnt... u were brainwashed since u were a kid to be programmed to hate turks, but the area in which our parents' generation's calculations fell short was that as much as they talked to u about these ugly disgusting turkish ogres, eventually we were gonna run into a few & maybe.. just maybe, if ur mind is capable of handling so much freedom.. then u would realize that this eternal & unconditional hatred for our turkish contemporaries is nothing more than a HUGE moral burden.

                Now, u can either surrender urself body & soul to this demon called HATE, to whom u will remain a SLAVE all ur life.. or if u grow up & open ur eyes.. or meet enuf nice turkish ppl in ur life who might help u out in ur endeavours if u let them, then maybe u might realize that HATE is just a BIG word thrown around by small people

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Tres Bien
                  Because, actually we dont anymore. We bash Israelis instead, lol.
                  I understand now why my parents felt this anger towards turks, it was just taken wrongly by us, as youre young and dont know whats going on in world-politics.now i have a better knowleadge, though i usually think that turks are very badly educated , and should get a grip of themselves and learn about their history, there are many racist turks out there(not to mention Azeris...)



                  their are good turks too, yes but that is not the point. I dont think its wrong for us to critisize turks, not after all they have dont to us, i understand if some armenians hate them...
                  the turk are not racist.only they very nationalistttt
                  Last edited by loseyourname; 06-22-2004, 08:36 AM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by ardenik
                    no. ataturk became in charge of turkey after the fall of the gencturk party & ittihad ve terakke commitee. he reformed the country. he threw the radical religious views out the window, giving women more freedom to dress normally & participate as members of society, he changed the official alphabet from arabic letters to latin letters. he pushed turkey far forward in terms of national development in every field.
                    This is just silly. Armenians along with Kurds and anybody else they didn't like were killed to make room for nationalism. A turkish state for turks and no one else. The principals are the same.
                    Ironicly most turks today don't like nationalism. That's like a subtle "I'm sorry" if you ask me.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by patlajan
                      This is just silly. Armenians along with Kurds and anybody else they didn't like were killed to make room for nationalism. A turkish state for turks and no one else. The principals are the same.
                      Ironicly most turks today don't like nationalism. That's like a subtle "I'm sorry" if you ask me.
                      And don't forget Kurds participated just as badly against Armenians. In fact many of the peopled "riled up" by the Turks, whether the Ottomans or the Young Turds, were Kurds, and Circassians, and then Turkey would conveniently blame them as "They are third parties it was them that was behind the massacres, not the us".
                      Achkerov kute.

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