The Real Face of War

[loseyourname]

Wow. A good deal of the insurgents aren't from Iraq and are responsible for the continued fighting which is killing Iraqis!

[Anonymouse]

Wow. A good deal of the insurgents aren't from Iraq and are responsible for the continued fighting which is killing Iraqis!

Wow where is the proof of that and maybe they wouldnt be there if it wasn't for American imperialism in the first place!

[Anonymouse]

For an interesting article of how Iraq will end exactly like Vietnam, you should read this.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/crevald1.html

[Sip]

Wow let's blame the US for everything including the extinction of dinosaurs.

[Anonymouse]

Wow let's blame the US for everything including the extinction of dinosaurs.

No, we only blame the U.S. for what it is rightfully its fault.

[patlajan]

I have a feeling this thread is gonna end well. Anyone see Emil around?

[loseyourname]

Wow where is the proof of that and maybe they wouldnt be there if it wasn't for American imperialism in the first place!

The leader of the insurgents is Jordanian, and don't you find it a little peculiar that he had absolutely no interest in the Iraqi people when they were being oppressed by the infidel, genocidal maniac Hussein? I'm not saying the US is blameless here, but let's not pretend that these insurgents are nothing more than innocent Iraqis protecting their homes.

[Anonymouse]

The leader of the insurgents is Jordanian, and don't you find it a little peculiar that he had absolutely no interest in the Iraqi people when they were being oppressed by the infidel, genocidal maniac Hussein? I'm not saying the US is blameless here, but let's not pretend that these insurgents are nothing more than innocent Iraqis protecting their homes.

Whether they are innocent Iraqis or not matters not, as they are resisting American occupation and aggression. Furthermore, to claim that the "leader of the insurgents" is Jordanian is missing the issue. This outlook assumes that all the insurgents are one monolithic entity ( I already told you not to do that ) when in reality the uprisings are diverse, localised within given cities, and chaotic. There are different cities, groups with different allegiances, and religious and tribal distinctions that are defying the U.S. To claim that the leader of all of the insurgents is a Jordanian is akin to when the Europeans in their dealings with the Indians would assign a "leader" of the Indian nation. In reality the Indians were divided into different tribes, and how convenient for the Europeans to place the bonds of leadership on one figure and thereby have reason and justify their dealings with the other tribes who perhaps did not even have an idea of what went on.

[!EEK]

Everyone is talking about Iraqian looting everything out there...but I hope it's clear that looting is common in both sides:

Hi I'm Private Derrick, look at me, I'm looting!

[loseyourname]

This outlook assumes that all the insurgents are one monolithic entity ( I already told you not to do that ) when in reality the uprisings are diverse, localised within given cities, and chaotic. There are different cities, groups with different allegiances, and religious and tribal distinctions that are defying the U.S.

This is exactly why it's ridiculous of you to say that all of these insurgents are nothing but freedom fighters struggling against occupation. The occupation would not even be there if not for the insurgents. They bear just as much responsibility for the continued fighting as anybody. Regardless of how you feel about the US, there is absolutely no reason to glorify the actions of many who are intentionally destabilizing an already unstable situation, on either side.