Seatbelt Laws: A violation?

[Sip]

So, the 50cent or more difference in our prices and other state's prices are due to higher taxes?

The gasoline in california is somewhat different than other places due to the more strict emissions/air quality laws (e.g. have you seen the "NO MTBE" stickers at the pumps?) ... that's one of the reasons why the prices are higher and also why it tends to jump much more in Cali when there's a shortage ... because CA gas supply is more limited than other places.

This website has a pretty good description of what you pay for when you buy gas and also differences in California.

Here in WI, they seem to add a bunch of ethanol to the gas in the winter. You can actually smell the difference when warming up your car in the morning!

[Siggie]

I see. I didn't there could be that large of a difference due to that. Percentage-wise it's a lot more expensive.

[ArmoBarbi]

The gasoline in california is somewhat different than other places due to the more strict emissions/air quality laws (e.g. have you seen the "NO MTBE" stickers at the pumps?) ... that's one of the reasons why the prices are higher and also why it tends to jump much more in Cali when there's a shortage ... because CA gas supply is more limited than other places.

This website has a pretty good description of what you pay for when you buy gas and also differences in California.

Here in WI, they seem to add a bunch of ethanol to the gas in the winter. You can actually smell the difference when warming up your car in the morning!

I thought LA had poor air quality...

[Siggie]

I thought LA had poor air quality...

that's why we have stricter emissions laws now.

[ArmoBarbi]

Ah so its a response to the poor quality. Makes sense, I didnt realize it was a new thing.

[Sip]

I thought LA had poor air quality...

LA air has gotten MUCH MUCH better in the last 10 years or so. I remember when we first got there in 91, you could actually see and chew the air most days in the mornings. We would get these "high smog" alerts on the news for people with asthma or other respiratory conditions.

But recently, you almost never get those alerts ... and the air just seems so much better. I think one big reason for that is all the emission restrictions and laws put on newer cars ... and those smog checks we have to do every couple of years on older cars actually work it seems!

Now I don't know how scientifically true my above statements are ... but it just seems to me the air has gotten much better.

[nunechka]

i was watching bowling for colombine and when micheal moore was in LA (as a joke he asked a cop) "hey why dont you arrest someone for polluting the air, because i can see the hollywood sign from here because of the smog" and of cource the police ignored him, but the point was well taken...

the big corporations who own everything, who are for example demolishing many historic sites in the city of Pasadena, are responsible for MOST of the smog emmission that has caused the pollution, but the way the government resloved it was to place the burden on the average people, who hardly cause any of the pollution...

maybe the fact that big corporations lobby the government and bribe them had some effect... after all we the people haven't been running the government as we should have since reagon came into office...

THANKS to the republican party for shifting the burden of paying for the mess the corporations made on the poorest among us...

the Republican slogan should be " we take from the poor to give to the rich, after all the poor dont know what to do with money anyway, if they did, then GOD would've made them rich, just like us"

[Anonymouse]

i was watching bowling for colombine and when micheal moore was in LA (as a joke he asked a cop) "hey why dont you arrest someone for polluting the air, because i can see the hollywood sign from here because of the smog" and of cource the police ignored him, but the point was well taken...

the big corporations who own everything, who are for example demolishing many historic sites in the city of Pasadena, are responsible for MOST of the smog emmission that has caused the pollution, but the way the government resloved it was to place the burden on the average people, who hardly cause any of the pollution...

maybe the fact that big corporations lobby the government and bribe them had some effect... after all we the people haven't been running the government as we should have since reagon came into office...

THANKS to the republican party for shifting the burden of paying for the mess the corporations made on the poorest among us...

the Republican slogan should be " we take from the poor to give to the rich, after all the poor dont know what to do with money anyway, if they did, then GOD would've made them rich, just like us"

What's more worse than a lefty liberal environmentalist egalitarian is one who actually believes the bromide that Democrats are better than Republicans.

[loseyourname]

Jesus, Nune, are things really that simple in your world? You're like the medieval catholic that attributed every bad occurance in her life to the influence of Satan.

[nunechka]

things arent that simple, but i am damn good at summarizing them for simple people...

and anonymouse you know whats worse, YOU... but thats ok, thats whats great about me, i will always make sure the people's voices are heard (which includes yours), but its just too bad that you wouldnt do the same... i will make sure that the average person is heard (that we know what the corporations are up to)... but you wont because all you care about is yourself... and my guess is that all the corporations care about are themselves too... so you have more in commen with them then it is apperant... i dont just care about myself, i care about the well being of human kind... human rights, human dignity, etc... i guess thats my EUROPEAN PART! and my armenian part cares deeply about armenian issues... and since you are armenian i care about you more...

i guess making sense is NOT one of anony's great qualities... thats ok, remember he is good looking...