London Terror Bombings Kill 37, Wound 700

[Pamooshjian]

I agree with GSTracer.

You might think you do, but I don't think so as it seems to me that only the lives of Americans, Brits and their allies are worth something and deserve sympathy, wheras Arabs are only terrorists and their lives are worth nothing. I say this because I seriously doubt if the deaths of Iraqis bothers him in the least. I know his kind and if he had it his way, he would say nuke'em. They invade these people's country and kill their people, yet it's the Iraqis who are bad.

The US and allies (GB) have killed Iraqis. We should be sad and upset that people have died and others yet have lost their loved ones. If you value life, you should value it unconditionally. Why should you not care or feel sadness because of this attack?

I'll tell you why. If the Americans hadn't held parades and cheerfully wave their stupid little flags at the troops after their return from a killing spree in Iraq the first time, I might have thought different. Personally I would have stayed home in shame of what my country did to a country and a people who did absolutely nothing to us as I picture the burned and mutilated bodies of Iraqi women and children in my head and that awful scene of the massacre of the withdrawing Iraqis on the Basra highway. Sooting people in the back, what bravery, such heros. Was Mr. Patriot feeling sympathy for those dead Iraqis or was he waving his flag and cheering the troops for a job well done?

I'm sorry, but I do not value life unconditionally.

What did those people who were killed, their friends, and their family have to do with Iraq? Because they live in the country that killed Iraqis they deserve to die?
If the US gets attacked it's the same? The majority of the country didn't even vote for Bush, yet people shouldn't feel sadness were we to die?
Yet we call the Turks barbarian. It is through the same method of rationalization that they killed our ancestors. People are people. Why should we think, they're British, they're American, they're whatever, so they deserve to die? That's how people are able to commit such acts against their fellow human beings; by not thinking of them as such and instead classifying them as different and not of "their" kind.

We understand all this and it really goes without saying. However, we never said that they deserved to die, that was jew-speak from the patriotic flag waver GST. What we said was that we have no sympathy for those who have no sympathy for others.

To give you a more simple example. I know of this woman who was always xxxxxin about how things are unfair, how she has suffered and wanted everyone to feel sorry for her. I knew this woman and I know that she didn't suffer anything other than not having all the luxuries she thought she deserved to have and entitled to. Other than that she really had nothing to complain about. Regardless. One time in order to make her realize that she didn't really have it all that bad, I said. There are a lot of people who are much worst off than you and her answer was, "I don't care about them." and I gave her the only reply I could have and said, "If you don't care about anyone else, why should anyone else care about you?". And this situation is EXACTLY the same thing.

[Pamooshjian]

Why shouldn't we be sad for these 700+ people and their families?

We didn't tell anyone not to feel sad. We only said that we have no sympathy for those who have no sympathy to others.

Did they deserve it?

That's not for us to judge. I'm not accusing them of being guilty of anything, but I'm not assuming that they are innocent either.

Do two wrongs make a right?

Two? From where did you start counting? Let's do some simple addition. For argument's sake, let's start with Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

Iraq invades Quwait. Wrong number one.

NATO attacks Iraq. Wrong number two.

US UK and co attack Iraq again. Wrong number three.

Four bombs go off in London. Wrong number four.

So how come the two wrongs made a right when NATO attacked Iraq, but now the wrong number four is called number two and we get told what nonsense children are told.

[Pamooshjian]

You make it seem as if the Serbs were doing nothing, just going about their daily lives and out of nowhere the US and NATO decide to bomb them.

The Serbs in Kosovo were victims of daily attacks by the albanians and they were only acting in self defense to protect their people in their own country. In case you didn't know, Kosovo was a province of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, not Albania. What the Albanians there were trying to achieve was islamic expansionism. The jews saw this as a perfect opportunity to get lots of Christans killed and I can provide you with many letters from jews, rabbis, jew organizations etc etc who agitated for the bombing of Yugoslavia by spreading false rumors of genocide. Read about the Rudder Finn fiasco and you'll get a clearer picture of what actually went on instead of relying on your jew run government and jew owned media for your information. BTW, I got most of my information not from neo-nazi sites, but straight from the horses mouth.

Why don't you state the other side of the story?

I just gave the other side of the story and the true side. Why don't you give us your side of the story and tell us why the Serbs had to be bombed into the stone age and why 2,500 Serb civillians had to die.

The reason I am commenting on your posts is because you pick a side and point out flaws. Anyone can sit here and point out mistakes. I do not see you running for office and taking responsibily for those decisions and I don't see you bringing up ideas on how to solve problems. It's easy for you to sit and criticize difficult decisions when you are not held responsible for them.

You're lying. The reason you're commenting is to defend your country, right or wrong. We didn't "pick" any side to point out the flaws. The flaws were there and we pointed to the side the flaws were on. No, not just anyone can just sit there and point out mistakes, as they would have to be quite knowledgable to do so, plus, we're not saying they were "mistakes", you are. I have a good way to solve at least your Iraq problem and save the lives of your troops. GET OUT! Difficult decisions? Yea, it must have been a real difficult decision to decide to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis for fun and profit at the expense of American lives by those who would never come in harm's way. I also remember seeing both xxxx Chaney and Colin Powell on TV say, "

We are doing this first and foremost for israel

.". So your buddies that might die, they will be dying for israel.

The fault in your judgement is that you are letting emotion take over rational thinking.

I think you have that backwards and I'm quit sure most people on this forum will attest to that. We are using logic and reason. You are using, "My country wrong or right."

If that is the basis of your thinking, then heck, lets just carpet bomb every Turk, every other Muslim, heck lets throw the Jews in there for good mesaure, and be done with it.

Spoken like a true American. Americans and jews are the only people that I have heard say such things and mean it. As for the turks, I would give them 24 hrs to get off my land and they leave in their underwear or on the 25th hr, they get vaporized. If the US likes them so much, they can have them for free. All they pay is shipping and handling. I have nothing in particular against moslems. Many moslem countries gave Armenians refuge during the genocide. The jews, well seeing as how they tried to get us wiped out, I think it would be poetic justice.

As Siggie said, two wrongs do not make a right.

I like Siggie and she's verry nice. As a matter of fact, she's too nice. However, I don't agree with this kindergarden fairy tale and I explained her the flaw in this theory, (at least for the issue at hand) quite adequately.

And if you're so upset about our foreign policy, why not get up and move to another nation?

My country right or wrong, love it or leave it, it's all the same John Wayne crap.

And for the record, no one on here said that some people are more deserving of sympathy than others.

You didn't have to say it.

The killing of humans of any ethnicity or religion is a bad thing.

OK, then please tell us when killing people is a good thing, because as an American, I'm sure you have a load of justifications for your country's aggression. How about when you attack other countries and claim you are defending your country? Delivering democracy by smart bombs? The "war on terror" is a really good one too. I also love how Americans claim that they werre attacked because they love freedom, but it's really odd that these freedom hating terrorists don't attack other freedom loving countries such as Sweden or Norway or a long list of other countries. They only pick on poor little USA that never did nuthin to nobody. "We pour billions of dollars into their country and all they want to do is kill us, boo hoo hoo.". Get real man, no one is buying you BS.

What I do not like is people who come to the United States, enjoy all of its luxuries, and then turn around the criticize its flaws and mistakes.

How about the people that were born in the united states and don't feel like being hated by half the world let alone becomming a victim of a well deserved terrorist attack on the US, just because some money grubbing, blood thirsty war mongerers decide to go and kill people whenever and wherever they like? What about those people who have lived in the US for generationd and don't feel like having their sons and daughters being sent off to foreign lands to die for israel?

I have several friends stationed in Iraq.

Screw your freinds. If they go to Iraq and die, they only have themselves to blame. I have an Armenian freind who has family in Iraq and he was pissed off as he was telling me how the Iraqis were targetting Armenians there and angry at the Iraqis. I asked him if anything like that had ever happened before the US, UK invaded Iraq and he said NO. I blame it all on the US and UK (and of course the jews which goes without saying).

I also did not support our decision to go in there but the decision was not mine,

Well you're certainly supporting that decision now.

does that mean I am going to sit and criticize and bad mouth my country and its ally England

"My country right or wrong". If you can't criticize your country, then what's this "freedom" you been yappin about?

[/QUOTE]when my friends are risking their lives in Iraq?[/QUOTE]

If your friends die in Iraq, expect no sympathy from me.

[Pamooshjian]

Finally someone who sees a part of my point. The people on this forum are so caught up in their hatred for US foreign policy that they just sit there and bash left and right without actually making any useful suggestions.

Americans never want or listen to useful suggestions unless it involves a better and faster way to kill people while causing as much damage as possible. Hey, let's add some depleted uranium so they can keep dying after we're long gone. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. etc. You war mongerers were given plenty of useful suggestions by France and Germany amongst others, but you had your heart set on destruction and there was nothing that could desuade you. I have a useful suggestion for you right now. Get the fk OUT. But noooooooooooooooo, "my country right or wrong".

Always digging into US conspiracy and paranoia rather than just looking at the situation objectively.

The reason why we SEE those conspiracies through the lies is because we look at the situation objectively instead of eating all the garbage they try to feed us. "Paranoia" is when someone thinks something is there when it's really not. However, when someone thinks there is something there and it turns out that it is really there, it's called "hightened awareness". So far every accusation against the US and UK have turned out to be true and everything they have said have turned out to be lies, but I already knew all that because I have, "hightened awareness".

I for one would have supported the surgical removal of terrorist organizations without endangering innocent lives.

No such thing. You smart bombs are as smart as your president. There would be no terrorist organizations if yopur country didn't commit acts of terrorism on countries such as Iraq or supported acts of terrorism by the terrorist state of israel on the Palestinian people by supplying them with weapons to commit those acts of terrorism with. How come Kanada isn't worried about these terrorist organizations like you are, ever ask yourself that? I for one fully support the surgical removal of Geroge Bushe's frontal lobe and probaly most Amerikans for that matter.

The US should have done that in Afghanistan and Iraq instead of wasting billions of dollars and sacraficing thousands of lives.

No, the US should have stayed home and minded their own business instead of supporting terrorist organizations, dictators and Bin Laden's to begin with.

BUT, I am still sticking to my point in saying that anyone who thinks that the people in London "deserved" to get bombed and die due to England's policy is just not right. And that goes towards the comments made earlier by the Turkish poster and Anush.

We don't really care what a turkish poster has to say. But I would like to know who, when and where someone said they "deserved" to get bombed and in what context. In all honesty and as my postion has always been. The UK was asking for trouble just as the US was looking for trouble and you both found it. 9/11 for you and 4 booms for London, but you still don't get it. You should take Spain's example and cut your losses while you're still ahead. Personally, I think you're twisting things around as you're in the habbit of doing by misconstruing "no sympathy" for "deserved to die" which is nothing less than jew-speak.

Does a child rapist and murderer deserve to die? I really can't be the judge of that. Would I have sympathy if he was to die? No!

For example, I have no love for Turks due to the Genocide, but if Armenia had the nuclear capability to wipe out Turkey, I'd oppose it. Taking innocent lives, especially people who had nothing to do with it, in retaliation for lives lost is wrong.

OK, just for you and because we respect and value your opinion so much, we'll just bomb the piss out of them from a high altitude by dropping eveything we can get our hands on, including the kitchen sink and I assure you we will be using cluster bombs cause they're purdy.

My original point was that two wrongs do not make a right.

No it wasn't, liar. That was what Siggie wrote and you feel that it's a safe bandwagon to get on, but I already let the air out of the tires so you ain't goin nowhere with that one.

Much like these other posters, I am against war and the loss of human life.

You're lying again. "Surgical stikes" is still taking human life and I don't buy your interpretation of what a terrorist is. You only care about your buddies who are in Iraq to kill Iraqis who are "barbarians" because they cut a few heads off and adds up to nothing more than a handful of people that shouldn't have been there in the first place, but you don't give a ---- for the lives of the Iraqi people.

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a huge mistake, the invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake.

You forgot Viet Nam. You guys sure seem to make an awful lot of "huge mistakes" and at the cost of how many million innocent lives? (yea I know, a small price to pay for democracy, freedom bla bla bla, BS BS BS) Yet for some strange reason, you don't think anyone should criticize your country, be they Americans or non-Americans. Especially Americans, "Love it or leave it" remember?

I for one do not believe that the US should police the world. I am also fully aware that alot of the problems we face in the middle east is due to Israel but I am still not going to sit here and say that well US fckd up, its time they get bombed and thousands of innocent people die so that the score could be even.

All I will say to this is that you will reap what you have sown.

Right now my #1 priority is in making sure I do not have to attend any funerals for friends who lose their lives in Iraq. If that means fighting a little longer to wipe out those crazy Islamist miltants and setting up some sort of government that can control the nation and then withdrawing, then so be it.

And who made those islamists crazy? I'm not a moslem, but if you want to see crazy, have the US attack Armenia for azerbaboonistan and you will see how crazy I would get. You would wish you were dealing with the islamists instead.

If US withdrew right now, the crazies would seize power, strengthen their influence and networks and set about causing more death and destruction to innocent people like those in the world trade center, the several embassies, the london subways.

You are so full of it. The only reason they are doing those things is because YOU stated it.

Their truly hate our guts right now. Bush got us into this mess, now he has to finish up the job completely and get us out.

Yes they hate your guts and I don't blame them one bit. Bush made a mistake, Klinton made a mistake, Bush senior made a mistake. It's mistake after mistake after mistake and it seems like there's no end to it and it will only stop if the US is completely destroyed. Inshalla! And then maybe we can have some peace and quiet.

One more thing, people like anush, a5092, anonymouse always like to point out the negatives in an effort to stick it to the government.

When I have a problem with my car, I bring it to the garage and point out the negatives and ask them to fix it. You of course would bring your car to the garage and point out only what works fine. Amerikan logic. We don't need to stick it to your government, your government is doing a fine job of it all by itself and with a little help from the trojan jews.

It's as if they have an agenda.

An agenda? So who da paranoid one now?

I do not see anyone commenting about the countless acts of assistance our nation provides to people all over the world.

I know a guy who murdered nine women, but he did save a litter of kittens from drowning once. Sadly, the judge didn't take that great humanitarian act into consideration when he gave out the sentence.

[anoush719]

Finally someone who sees a part of my point.

However did you interpret that poster's comments as seeing part of your point? I'd say that the poster did quite a bit to discredit your so-called "point" as your "point" is nothing more and nothing less than the mentality of "my country right or wrong."

The people on this forum are so caught up in their hatred for US foreign policy that they just sit there and bash left and right without actually making any useful suggestions.

Au contraire, you were given the most useful of suggestions. Get OUT. STOP dropping bombs on people, on innocent civilians. How is that? Will you feel so smug and so righteous when one or all of your friends gets killed in Iraq? You live in a dream world and so do they. Death is final, total and the absolute END. Once it happens, there is no turning back. I bet you and your friends discussed their service in Iraq. I bet they went there just thinking they were going to get a chance to "kick some a.*s" then come home safe and sound as though nothing ever happened.

Always digging into US conspiracy and paranoia rather than just looking at the situation objectively. I for one would have supported the surgical removal of terrorist organizations without endangering innocent lives. The US should have done that in Afghanistan and Iraq instead of wasting billions of dollars and sacraficing thousands of lives.

Striking from thousands of feet up in the air was so neat, clean and surgical. Just pound the crap out of these places. Too bad you had to go in on the ground and get your hands dirty. But then you did go in on the ground, there was no way of getting around it. So in order to be certain not to even break a fingernail, go blasting into places and shoot at everything that moves.

Have you ever heard of George Orwell? Have you ever read his book 1984? Because you are doing it...Orwellian doublespeak more recently known as jewspeak. Say what you mean and mean what you say, don't keep giving us jewspeak. What you have said in essence above I will translate into normal, human honest language. What you are really saying is that you wanted to remove "terrorist organizations" without suffering the consequences i.e. casualties. The US should be able to go over there, have their way and suffer no casualties in the process. Sorry, in the real world it doesn't work out that way. And who the hell are you to take it upon yourselves to say, "There is a terrorist organization." So your lying propagandists sold you a false bill of goods that you were getting even for 9-11 by going to Iraq and killing everything in sight. It NEVER occurred to you to question this faulty claim? Of course not. After all, dees ees ameriKKKa, land of the free home of the brave. Our politicians and leaders would NEVER lie to us, would they?

I would bet that you think the Nuremberg war crimes trials were all about bad Nazis killing jews, don't you? Wrong. While this subject was brought up for its propaganda appeal, the convictions of Nazi leaders had NOTHING to do with jews. It had to do with CRIMES AGAINST PEACE, and they were severely criticized for FOLLOWING ORDERS. The Germans were told that they should never have blindly followed orders. Yet here you are and your friends too blindly "following orders." Insisting that I or anyone does not have the right to criticize this country when I see it is doing WRONG. You are doing your friends and your country NO FAVOR by being blindly led by the nose and accepting everything you are told as gospel truth. You can apologize to them when they are dead. Is it worth it to die for a LIE???

BUT, I am still sticking to my point in saying that anyone who thinks that the people in London "deserved" to get bombed and die due to England's policy is just not right. And that goes towards the comments made earlier by the Turkish poster and Anush.

I never said these people deserved to die. But you have nothing but BS and lies to make your point. I merely said I had NO sympathy for them or for your kind and your sick mentality, the mentality that is responsible for just about every case of genocide that ever occurred in the history of man.

For example, I have no love for Turks due to the Genocide, but if Armenia had the nuclear capability to wipe out Turkey, I'd oppose it. Taking innocent lives, especially people who had nothing to do with it, in retaliation for lives lost is wrong.

So now turks are more precious to you than Christian Serbs or Iraqis who gave refuge to Armenians after the Genocide? Aren't you feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? I agree with Pamooshjian's idea about how to deal with turks on Armenian land. The point is, that is Armenian land, not turkish land. But the US is in somebody else's country, bringing death and desctruction and wanting a pat on the back while they enrich certain enterprises with valued lucrative contracts to fix the damage.

My original point was that two wrongs do not make a right. Much like these other posters, I am against war and the loss of human life.

No, that was not your point, that was Siggie's point. Your point is very clear: my country right or wrong. Love it or leave it. You do not owe it to your country or its founding fathers to think freely, to think for yourself and bring your grievances forward when you find fault and know your country is making a mistake by committing war crimes. Give unconditional approval, after all, we must support the troops at all costs. Never mind that the best way to support the troops is to bring them HOME where they belong.

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a huge mistake, the invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake. I for one do not believe that the US should police the world.

I am quite sure that just as you approve of what's going on in Iraq now, had you lived during WWII, you also would have unthinkingly approved of dropping the A bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Who do you think you're kidding?

I am also fully aware that alot of the problems we face in the middle east is due to Israel but I am still not going to sit here and say that well US fckd up, its time they get bombed and thousands of innocent people die so that the score could be even.

Argue for impunity all you want, but the laws of nature say that for every action there is a reaction. What goes around comes around. You reap what you sew. Time to pay the fiddler. But you don't want to see that. You cannot go all over the world doing stuff to people and expect that you will remain unscathed, I do not "justify" this...here you are again with jewspeak. I am trying to open your eyes if that is at all possible for you to rise above your meat puppet programming and be a thinking individual instead of a programmed CNN meat puppet.

Right now my #1 priority is in making sure I do not have to attend any funerals for friends who lose their lives in Iraq.

If that were true, you would do your utmost to insist that US troops get out of Iraq NOW. Otherwise it is very, very probable you are going to be going to some funerals.

If that means fighting a little longer to wipe out those crazy Islamist miltants and setting up some sort of government that can control the nation and then withdrawing, then so be it.

Sure, sure...if you're doing something wrong, keep doing it until you beat people into submission. Lovely way of endearing yourself to the people of the world. When I travel outside the US, do you think I want people to know my citizenship? NO, I don't, I do not want to be associated with the crimes of this country. I put Canada stickers on my suitcase and hope that people think I'm Canadian because Canada and Canadians were smart enough not to go throwing their weight around making people hate them. I feel embarrassed when my citizenship is discovered.

If US withdrew right now, the crazies would seize power, strengthen their influence and networks and set about causing more death and destruction to innocent people like those in the world trade center, the several embassies, the london subways. Their truly hate our guts right now. Bush got us into this mess, now he has to finish up the job completely and get us out.

Right, finish the job. After all, Iraq is being punished for 9-11, even though they had absolutely NOTHING to do with it. How coldly clinical of you. You should have served in the ottoman army and punished those bad trouble making Armenians.

One more thing, people like anush, a5092, anonymouse always like to point out the negatives in an effort to stick it to the government. It's as if they have an agenda. I do not see anyone commenting about the countless acts of assistance our nation provides to people all over the world.

OK, so Son of Sam who killed so many people in New York not too long ago, He was a wonderful man because he donated money to B'Nai Brith and jewish charities, never mind all the people he murdered. There, satisfied ? Heaven forbid I point out the negative.

[anoush719]

Question for G-whatever

Even though you have sidestepped each and every point we have made thusfar, I want an answer to the following question.

If you believe so unquestioningly in GWBush's mission from God, why aren't you in Iraq with your buddies???

[anoush719]

As we sowed, so do we reap

LONDON -- "The purpose of terrorism is just that -- it is to terrorize people and we will not be terrorized." So declared a sombre, determined Prime Minister Tony Blair on Thursday after the worst bombings in London's recent history.

Blair spoke for all Britons. In the crowds milling about central London right after the four bombings, I saw people who were dazed, confused, and edgy, but no fear or mass panic. Britons rise to their full measure in adversity. And so they did in spades on 7/7, their smaller version of America's 9/11.

London's emergency service functioned brilliantly. There was none of the chaos or jingoism we saw after 9/11 in New York. Britons uniformly exhibited stiff upper lips, coolness, and manners for which they are deservedly respected. I was very proud of them.

The bombings paralyzed London during morning rush hour, but by afternoon the city's trademark red buses were again careening around corners and even subway service partly resumed.

There were no witch hunts against London's Muslims, 10% of that great city's population.

A senior British police official declared there is no reason why the words "Islamic" and "terrorist" should go together, even though Blair had just used them.

The cop is right. The terrorists who struck London on 7/7 may have been Mideast Muslims, but their primary goal was political, not religious.

Britain's most outspoken, controversial MP, George Galloway, ignored the outpouring of platitudes from British and G8 politicians and hit the nail on the head: "Londoners paid the price for Tony Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan."

A hitherto unknown group called European al-Qaida affirmed the transit attacks were indeed revenge for Britain's invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. You can't expect to invade other nations without getting some form of return fire.

Iraq and Afghanistan's regimes were too feeble to resist U.S.-British invasion, and quickly crumbled. But angry Mideasterners and Afghans have launched their own privatized war to counterattack the West. Lacking any modern arms or military organization, they resort to their only major weapon, human cruise missiles.

We are horrified that anyone would attack innocent civilians packed in subway cars. But the extremists and fanatics who do so say they are exacting revenge for the 500,000 Iraqi civilians who died (confirmed by the UN) from the 10-year U.S.-British embargo of Iraq. Or for the destruction in 1991 of Iraq's water and sewage treatment plants, causing massive cholera and typhoid. Or for the occupation of Iraq that has killed tens of thousands more civilians.

We saw the frightful TV footage from the London bombing but no footage at all of the destruction of an entire Afghan village just days before by the U.S. Air Force.

I am not justifying terror attacks, only putting them into context. When we kill them in droves, some of them will strike back.

Osama look-alike?

Calling on such avengers to fight fair is a waste of time.

The London bombing was clearly designed to humiliate U.S. President George Bush, who had declared his so-called "war on terror" almost won.

If Osama bin Laden was behind the attack, it showed America's nemesis is still alive and dangerous. But the relatively modest number of casualties suggested this might not have been a bin Laden operation but one carried out by a new, like-minded extremist group. Embarrassingly, the attacks came right after Blair had assured Olympic officials Britain's security was solid.

The bombers may have come from among Europe's 20-million-strong Muslim community, or were perhaps angry, radicalized British youths of Mideast or Pakistani origin. We do know the head of British counter-intelligence, MI5, just reported to Blair that "Iraq is producing a new generation of militants," replacing the former role of Afghanistan. In other words, the U.S. invasion of Iraq supposedly designed to end terrorism has backfired badly.

Al-Qaida has gone from being a small, isolated organization into a hydra-headed transnational movement whose power and danger is growing.

So this bloody week of 7/7 should make the G8 turn from pop-star evangelism about saving Africa from itself to asking what the Western powers can do about those hothouses now germinating anti-Western violence -- Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Netanyahu Changed Plans Due to Warning

by AMY TEIBEL
Jul 7, 7:14 AM ET

"British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.

Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government officials said.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said he wasn't aware of any Israeli casualties.

Just before the blasts, Scotland Yard called the security officer at the Israeli Embassy to say they had received warnings of possible attacks, the official said. He did not say whether British police made any link to the economic conference.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the nature of his position.

The Israeli Embassy was in a state of emergency after the explosions in London, with no one allowed to enter or leave, said the Israeli ambassador to London, Zvi Hefet.

All phone lines to the embassy were down, said Danny Biran, an Israeli Foreign Ministry official.

The ministry set up a situation room to deal with hundreds of phone calls from concerned relatives. Thousands of Israelis are living in London or visiting the city at this time, Biran said.

Amir Gilad, a Netanyahu aide, told Israel Radio that Netanyahu's entourage was receiving updates all morning from British security officials, and "we have also asked to change our plans."

Netanyahu had been scheduled to stay in London until Sunday, but that could change, Gilad said."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707...ons_1&printer=1

[Siggie]

Even though you have sidestepped each and every point we have made thusfar, I want an answer to the following question.

If you believe so unquestioningly in GWBush's mission from God, why aren;t you in Iraq with your buddies???

This thread is huge now and I have to admit I have not read everything. I have a thesis to finish before the deadline, but I don't think he said that.

I think he's saying that even though he doesn't support the war, he has friends who are over there and he wants them to return safely.

PamPam! Can I call you that? It's kind of cute. The saying doesn't go "Five wrongs..."
I think you guys know what I mean though.
To summarize. I think the current administration is full of crap. They've fed the public nothing but lies. I do not support this war. We can't go impose our ways on people like we're trying to free them or enlighten them when they don't want it. It's not our business. Whether we agree or not.
But I do feel sad that so many innocent people are losing their lives because of this on both sides. We don't know that those hurt or killed had no sympathy for the Iraqis that have been hurt. Their opinions are not necessarily being represented by the govt.
I think this was another point Andrew (GSTracer) was making. I still love the US... It's just unfortunate that we have Bush and his inept posse as leaders. 3.5 more years. *shudders*

[Red Brigade]

If 30 people die in a western country everyone is so surprised and upset and we must endure the process of brainwashing for a month.

If thousands of people die somewhere in the rest of the world ,it is only an 'event' and none of the murderers are punished in any way.

[Pamooshjian]

If 30 people die in a western country everyone is so surprised and upset and we must endure the process of brainwashing for a month.

If thousands of people die somewhere in the rest of the world ,it is only an 'event' and none of the murderers are punished in any way.

Exactly, and I don't understand why this is so hard for some people to grasp and see why we object to these double standards. The opposing side "claims" that all lives are equally valuable, but this is only something they preach, not practice. We on the other and opposing side say that if the lives of Iraqis are worthless, then so are the lives of Americans and Brits.

They drop bombs from a reletively safe altitude killing thousands of peope and then they're welcomed home as brave heros by patriotic flag wavers. The Arabs, moslems or whatever use the only means at their disposal killing a handufl of people and they are called cowardly terrorists who must be punished and wiped out.

Incidentally. Do you know who started terrorism in the Middle East? It was the jews.

Do you know what the israelis do to jewish terrorists? They elect them as prime minister.