Please tell me why I have to like xxxs.

[Cinderella]

I agree with you, however...

Armenians started demanding recognition and reparation in the 1950s, when the Jewish Holocaust was already recognized. Could you clarify?

OK. First of all, what I wrote cleary states WWI and I wasn't talking about reperations. I was talking about fund raising campaign for the suffering. I posted one chapter and the URL for a book called The First Holocaust (available online for your reading pleasure), but the Christmas tree police deleted it.

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tfh/

I also found out how the Jews have been immitating us Armenians even since WWI and the AG in order to gain world sympathy and collect money by pretending that what happened to us actually happened to them. This way they kill two birds with one stone. They get to make a bunch of money and they prevent aid from reaching the Armenians.

To make a long story short. The Jews saw that there were fund raising campaigns for the Armenians who had just gone through a major genocide. So they decided to pretend that they were the ones who were suffering the most and they claimed every single thing that happened to the Armenians had happened to them. If you read some of the actual articles from that time, you will be amazed. They took every heart wrenching story about the Armenians and replaced the word Armenian for jew. They also went to work on Wilson, putting the squeeze on him with blackmail and Wilson went from "Help save the Armenians" to "Help save the Jews.".

I'm sure you've heard about the Red Cross helping the Armenian etc etc. Well, the treasurer of the Red Cross at the time was a Jew and in the book it tells of how the Red Cross was raising all kinds of money for the Jews who were allegedly the worst sufferers of the war. I have also recently learned that there is money that the Red Cross has that was supposed to be used for the Armenians during the genocide, but they never used it and they still have it.

Every Armenian should read this book and see how the world and the US in particular helped us, or better still, how they turned their back on us and concentrated their efforts on the jews. All kings of Jew names come up including Henry Morgenthau, you know the guy who was trying to save (yea right!) the Armenians. Yes the same Morgenthau that one jounalist criticized for spending too much energy on the zionists who were in no danger to have any to spare for the Armenians.

Anyway, the book is a must read for all Armenians who care in the least about what really happened to our people.

[Cinderella]

I'm kind of sick of hearing Jew repeatedly.

Can I use synonyms instead?

Exellent idea! I really don't like that word very much myself. Hell, even they get offended when you call them that. They even admit that it's an ugly word and that's why they came up with that semit crap, because it sounded more "euphonius" they say.


Any suggestions? Something nice and catchy, maybe even funny.

Anyway, I'm going to do my best to avoid using that God awful ugly and disgusting word. It gives me the Heebie geebies.

[Anonymouse]

Wow, I go away for a few hours and I return and what do I see? A whole thread about Jews!

It definitely caught me off guard.

[Cinderella]

You are doing exactly what you blame the Jews for doing to the Armenians and you are frankly being quite stupid and disregarding all the help individual Jews have given to Armenians and Armenia.
I personally know a handful of Jews who are very well aquainted with the Armenian community and respect and cherish their friendship with the community. And i know Jews who helped my father root himself in this country when rich "Armenians" lied and cheated him in his worst of times.
Dont take some propoganda so easily and you yourself should sometime question the little things which you read which get you so impassioned, dont be so easily swayed. And meet some Jews before you go on a tirade against their whole race. A lot of them aren't bad people, and as much as many may rub you OR me the wrong way, your being quite unfair with your judgements and your astounding biting criticisms. You said yourself you have seen 1 Jew. A few of my closest friends are Jews. And as much as each of them has a problem, they are no more than my Armenian or other Christian friends. Everyone has their flaws, your view depends on which angle you take and who you put yourself against.

A handful of Jews? Mozletov, I guess we're saved now and the turks are totally screwed, which is calls for a great big celebration.

Regarding the individual help, it doesn't count for squat in my book. Individual Turks saved many Armenians from the genocide, so why are all Turks evil? Shindler was a Nazi and he saved many jews, so why are all Nazis evil regardless?

That's the problem with people like you or those who come with all this big philosophy garbage when they don't know the first thing about philosophy and that is you have to be consistent. You cannot say "killing is bad" and then go on with "but" and try to justify killing in certain circumstaces.

Do you even know what propaganda means? Look it up before you use the word. I don't get easily swayed and I not only sometimes, but I always question everything and that's why I didn't buy every fishy holohoax story hook line and sinker like most everyone else. I didn't believe that Adam's rib instant chickie chickie babe story when I was just a kid and I'm certainly not any more gullable today. I check and double check and crossreference everything to form an opinion and not just jump up and down swearing on a stack of bibles that something is true because I heard it from one person or read it somewhere like most people. I'm an extremely tough customer when it comes to buying those kinds of goods. It's not the little things either, because in and of themselves are meningless. It's when all those little pieces are put together that one can actually see the big picture, which you have obviously missed.

I said I saw one once, but I was just kidding. I know plenty of jews and probably more than you'll ever know in your lifetime. Yea I have Jewish freinds too and they know that I'm fkn pissed off at their lot and they can't, don't and won't say s*it about it because they know I'm right and I have every right to make them taste their own s*it. If they don't like it, let them get their people to stop their crap and I'll considder easing off.

As for your stupid comment about "You are doing exactly what you blame the Jews for doing to the Armenians", I've heard this before from another non-thinker and I'll give you the same answer. I suppose in the Karabakh war we should have thrown flowers at the azeris instead of shooting back with bullets, because then we wouldn't be doing to them exactly what we blame the azeris for doing to the Armenians. We would all be dead, but at leat we would prove that we are better than the azeris.

I don't know how many times we have to repeat it but, this isn't about your individual jew or what he does, it's about what they do in the collective and that is what actually effects us. It's their collective efforts that are hurting us and a few token good cop Jews isn't enough for me to turn off the war machine.

BTW, go ask your Jewish buddies if they support B'nai Brith or any of those other major jewish organizations and I can tell you if they're helping us or harming us.

And I will tell you once again, it's not the individual Jews that I have a problem with. Plus Jews are not a race. It's a religion turned cult, so basically anyone who professes that religion or cult is automatically anti-Christian and anti-Armenian. If they don't manifest those sentiments, either they are hiding them or they are not really Jews, but only call themselves that because they have no other identity. Anyway, I'm not condemning their whole race or whatever, just as I don't condemn every Turk on the planet and by the same token, I'm not willing to condemn the Nazis either as some of the pro-jew campers here would like, because I'm not into the double standards business, that's a "Jew thing" and it coes back to the philosophy thing I told you where you have to be consistant and not flip flop around. You cannot say you're against racism and then say things like filthy Turks. You cannot say you're against hate and turn around and say you hate Nazis. And you would have a hell of a time trying to justify this kind of thinking as it has no reason or logic to it just as the Winoman did and repetedly got caught with his pants down and his foot in his mouth.

[Cinderella]

Wow, I go away for a few hours and I return and what do I see? A whole thread about Jews!

It definitely caught me off guard.

Get used to it. However, some people find that word somewhat distasteful and I find it utterly disgusting, so we're thinking of a synonim to replace the ugly word. Any suggestions?

[Cinderella]

I personally don't believe all Jews are that way but I'll just keep my mouth shut I was just wondering if there was another reason behind it thats all.

No one believe that they are all that way. I know that not all of them are that way and I never said they were all that way. It's just that the vast majority of them ARE that way.

But tell me, do you think all Turks are bad?

Do you think that all Nazis were bad?

I will caution you: They are loaded questions.

[Anonymouse]

Get used to it. However, some people find that word somewhat distasteful and I find it utterly disgusting, so we're thinking of a synonim to replace the ugly word. Any suggestions?

It's getting rather abhorrent having this topic surface in every sub forum. I do not object you talking about Jews, hell I don't even disagree with your arguments. I'll be the first to admit there is validity to the things being said. However, I am not ready to poison general talk forum with too much political jargon.

[Sip]

Sip's provocation? HAHAHA! You gotta be kidding. I'm just amazed that he doesn't realize how retarded we think he is. I have never come accross a more insignificant turd on the www and he can't even form a proper sentence most of the time....

Come on Dan ... You make 14 accounts and all of a sudden you are a "we" now? Do you really think people are that stupid? How many times do people have to ban you for you to realize where the problem lies? How many times were you banned from here alone?

[Murtaza]

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God HAHA

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night haha

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

I dont know If these are true, but I am sure none of you dislike from christians.Or look any reason for loving them.

[Red Brigade]

People tend to confuse Judaism with Zionism.