Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

[Anahita]

I would think all the effort of trying to establish a Fascist dictatorship in the US, militarize our borders, spy on Americans and the rest would be very stressful on them. That kind of bad stress (that is so harmful to so many others--that is hate combined with harmful and violent acts of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people) can cause severe and rapid harm to a person's health. Cheney already has a heart condition. Seems like very bad karma.


Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

Border By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer

39 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush, trying to build momentum for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, is considering plans to shore up the Mexican border with National Guard troops paid for by the federal government, according to senior administration officials.

One defense official said military leaders believe the number of troops required could range from 3,500 to 10,000, depending on the final plan. Another administration official cautioned that the 10,000 figure was too high...

Rest of story at:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/border_defense;_ylt=ArhuHEZOa2Qr0Kcmi32_gqus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

[Anahita]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

Listen to Air America

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

How to bring down a dictator

http://www.peacemagazine.org/archive/v18n3p28.htm

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery.
Have no fear.
None of them can stop the time--Marley, Redemption songs

"There's more to the picture than meets the eye. HEY HEY MY MY"--Neil Young

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/12/06/bono_zoom.jpg

Or listen to
Madison's Progressive Radio-MMM World Service

http://www.madison.com/mmm/

SINCE THEY'RE 'listening' (amazing how quickly they get my messages)...

When in doubt...

http://www.archives.gov/publications/images/lights-out.jpg

Amazing power of nature

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/lightning.jpg

Play it safe

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/images/lightning-collage.jpg

[TJ]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

a simple, clip of the article and ONE OR TWO links would have done.
apart from that, i dont see why noone wants to look at this problem in the long run even in simple economic sense. all the money they are planning to spend on troop deployment and a possible wall and numerous other expenses which willl easily run in the billions could instead be partly allocated to a fund of somesort which would invest in the Mexican business sector, spurring job growth and a higher standard of living, eventually cutting down drastically on illegal immigration and at the same time expanding the consumer market in Mexico for the US exports as well.

[Anahita]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

a simple, clip of the article and ONE OR TWO links would have done.

For you, perhaps. However I am also not kidding that the Bush Administration (and many other powers) are watching this site. This isn't simply an issue of economics. I've given them many opportunities. This is dangerous and they WILL STOP or I will stop them.

(Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Wall Street powers get the whole crime bunch all out of power and works with someone like Feingold or Kucinich--none of the Wall Street croud wants the lights going out).

[imhye]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

I'm all for preventing illegal immigration.

Build up walls. Send troops. Release dogs. Whatever.

Many democratic countries have "border troops" so I don't understand what the problem is.

I strongly have no sympathy for illegal immigrants. Number one, they are breaking laws of the United States (i.e., crime, criminal).

Number two, illegal immigration makes it soooo much harder on those who try to immigrate here legally. It makes it more restrictive and much more time consuming.

Send the illegal Mexicans back but don't ban them, allow them the opportunity to immigrate here legally like others. I think that's fair.

[Anahita]

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People should NOT be afraid to speak. Being silent is a bad idea. Ignore your rights and they can go away.


First they Came for the xxxs

First They Came for the xxxs
First they came for the xxxs
and I did not speak out
because I was not a xxx.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller - Nazi survivor

[imhye]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

What right should an illegal immigrant have? The right to go back.

[Anahita]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

I'm all for preventing illegal immigration.

Build up walls. Send troops. Release dogs. Whatever.

Many democratic countries have "border troops" so I don't understand what the problem is.

I strongly have no sympathy for illegal immigrants. Number one, they are breaking laws of the United States (i.e., crime, criminal).

Number two, illegal immigration makes it soooo much harder on those who try to immigrate here legally. It makes it more restrictive and much more time consuming.

Send the illegal Mexicans back but don't ban them, allow them the opportunity to immigrate here legally like others. I think that's fair.

First, who drew these lines/borders? Maybe we could just fill the borders with molten lava. That will keep 'them' out and 'us' in.


The Statue of Liberty reads...

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

[imhye]

Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

Who drew the lines? What does that have to do with illegal immigration.

Who drew the lines of Armenia? The lines are wrong and never right.

Wrong or not, if you are an illegal immigrant, you are breaking the law and causing others to suffer.

Why don't the Mexicans accept being sent back and then trying the legal way. That's a fair deal. Usually you are banned from entering the country for a decade or two, maybe life.

[Quarteria]

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I know everybody already knows this, but, it's not just a Mexican issue; ALL illegals (...who aren't fleeing persecution...) should be kept out.

Anyway, for Anahita: (btw, VERY proud of you for not quoting "Signs" by The Five Man Electrical Band, now, on with the moral of this post.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Translation: "If you want peace, prepare for war." (Vegetius, Epitoma rei militaris) origin of the name parabellum for some ammunition and firearms, e.g. Luger parabellum