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  • #91
    Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

    Originally posted by Կարմիր Բ
    Illegal immigration is an unavoidable part of the Capitalist mode of production since these people are cheap labor.





    You are out of touch with reality. You are applying concepts that were in use a hundred years ago to the modern world (with regards to all these borders changes). Nationalism is a dying ideology and border changes an ostracized solution for modern problems. The Globalization will take more time than most think, but the path it is going down is undeniable and hard to stop. I think all of these things are obvious to the objective observer. It seems like you have some romantic sentiments for the older real politik, nation-state based system that is falling by the wayside. You shouldn't let that cloud your judgment of what is happening in front of us.

    What you are unable to grasp is that it is due to very process of economic Globalization that borders become obsolete.

    What an irony. The very system that you vigorously support is the one that brings down all the borders, encourages multiculturalism and diversity.

    Oh please, illegal immigration is a result of political systems and legislation. It is political systems that create the need for 'cheap labor' by outlawing labor within the national pool via minimum wage laws, regulations, etc. Furthermore, by creating legislation that allows for immigration on mass scales without approval from the people or respect for private property, it creates the very problem we have with borders. The fact that governments create the artificial need for 'cheap labor' goes beyond your economic ignorance and requires a certain aptitude in comprehension of complex economic matters that Marxists are not capable of. What I support is an unhampered free market and private property rights, not state socialism as currently is the case.

    And as far as nations are concerned, nation-states are simply the political manifestations of already existing nations. Marxists like to believe otherwise, but then again, Marxists also believe humans can be changed only via external factors and humans are as malleable as playdoh. What is at stake, is not nation-states, for it is precisely the governments of these nations that are contributing to these corrosive effects, but rather, the old distinction between high and low culture, between race and people all vanished into a stylized barbarism of mass culture and egalitarianism.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #92
      Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

      Originally posted by Կարմիր Բ
      Illegal immigration is an unavoidable part of the Capitalist mode of production since these people are cheap labor.

      What an irony. The very system that you vigorously support is the one that brings down all the borders, encourages multiculturalism and diversity.
      The USA was in the Capitalist mode prior to the 1965 Immigration Act and there were practically no illegal aliens. That was all changed by liberals (commies),zionist and other lefties. China is in the Communist system and it's borders are sealed,

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        Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

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        Last edited by Anahita; 05-22-2006, 07:49 PM.

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        • #94
          Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

          Originally posted by Quarteria
          Incidentally, I don't think "Imagine" is a bad song...but, look at where peace got Lennin.
          Lennin not = Lennon. As far as the song goes… the song asks us to ‘Imagine.’

          I can’t respond to all points right now…

          (Lamb Boy, don’t forget to remind me of your key points/questions)



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