racism sucks

[sev_zeytun]

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What if the Kenyan becomes an Armenian? There are black Armenians from Ethiopia for example. They are Gregorian Christians. We should improve our ties with Ethiopia, they are potential allies.

That's true. i remember, one time in glendale, we went to church for մայրամ աստվածածին որը and there was a black woman speaking armenian fluently. I guess the point that i was trying to make is that there is that 50% chance that the child will go either way but if there is no inter-racial marriage then the child will be more inclined to choose the particular ethnicity in which he or she is born into.

[Էլիա]

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^One time, at the Բարատոն, I saw an Asian speaking Armenian!

[Կարմիր Բ]

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Yea its pretty cool. So instead of being so 'protectionists' let's try another way: make the rest of the world become Armenians!

[Esther]

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Now that is interesting!!^^

@Elia: Was the guy you saw part-armenian???? In America it seems to occur often, that many armenians have as an example an American/... father/mother. Here in Europe it is a really rare thing.

One question to all of you: Do you make any differences between Diaspora Armenians or Armenians from Armenia??? I recognized that there are different groups in our church, which seem to exist because there are cultural differences between Armenians from different countries.
I know this can't be called racism, but I think there are cases where some people are discriminated against.

What do you think???

[Lucin]

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What do you mean some cultures are more superior than others? Every culture has something good and something bad about it and if one culture was so much better than all the others then why doesn't everyone join in that culture? why doesn't everyone just become American, German, or Italian ect.?

Then why do you preach about the preservation of OUR culture if you don’t see something special and worthy in it? Why not marry a non-Armenian and enrich your culture with the other elements? You are constantly contradicting yourself...

how do you preserve a culture if you intermarry and alter it? Also, won't the child be ethnically confused? (a.k.a. who will he identify himself as? an armenian or a Kenyan?) people can do whatever they want in the world but mixing of cultures is almost like destroying them.

Another contradiction… If you promote marrying an Armenian then you are kind of becoming racist, since it is an obvious discrimination towards every non-Armenian.

By the way,cultural characteristics are closely associated with a given race.

[Էլիա]

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^Does that make me racist?

[sev_zeytun]

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Lucin: For part one:
I never said that there is nothing special or praiseworthy in it. I believe that different people prefer different elements of different cultures and, thus, join into that culture. i prefer the armenian cultures pluses to that of other cultures. If i liked the american culture that much more than i like the armenian culture then i can just go around and say that i am an american and disown being armenian in all ways.
For part two:
I have already told you my understanding of racism. i do not hate other cultures and ethnic groups. I just prefer my own and i feel that if we mix with other cultures too much then we will forget who we are and integrate into other societies. Example-- look at the americans. they started out as British, German, French, and other northern european peoples.They intermarried a lot and now they do not acknowledge themselves as those people but, instead they call themselves americans. i fear that the same thing might happen to the armenians if they intermarry too much.

[Էլիա]

Re: racism sucks

Ես նոյնպէս կը կարծեմ որ աւելի լաւ կ'ըլլայ եթէ իւրաքանչիւր հայեր միայն կ'ամուսնանան ուրիշ հայերու հետ որովհետեւ եթէ շատ կը խառնուինք ուրիշ ազգերու հետ, հայութիւնը կը կորսուի:

I also think that it would be better if all Armenians only marry other Armenians because if we mix too much with other races, the Armenian race would be lost.

[Sip]

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... anyway, this american kid comes up to me and says "GO HOME B****" ...

Next time he does that, just tell him "you too." DONE.

[sev_zeytun]

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Now that is interesting!!^^
One question to all of you: Do you make any differences between Diaspora Armenians or Armenians from Armenia??? I recognized that there are different groups in our church, which seem to exist because there are cultural differences between Armenians from different countries.
I know this can't be called racism, but I think there are cases where some people are discriminated against.

What do you think???

I do think that armenians in LA discriminate between eachother. Especially between hayastantsies, beirutsies, and parskahays. They all hang out in different social groups and, in many cases, make fun of eachothers accents and ways of speaking armenian.

By the way, for a 16 year old german-armenian you speak english very well. kudos to you.