Virginia Tech Killings

[Gunner14]

Re: Virginia Tech Killings

They say the guy was mad at rich people....

WTF??

There are probably thousands of students who can't even afford to go to a university, thinking you son of xxxxx!!!

It still doesnt make sense how he killes so many people by himself with two hand guns..... they say every person who died had at least 2 bullets in them... that is 60 rounds at the least.... not one person in the room rushed him or started running around making a commosion or something I just can't understand it....... at least throw something at him.... goodness. aghh just frustrates me.

I say the reason they don't have guns in England is cus they don't need them, people aren't iditos like they are here. Pisses me off sooo much. There are kids starving in the world, and this guy can afford to go to college and purchase two guns..... and complains about being poor.

You know the internet is what drove hime to the mental state he is in.... reading about the Columbine duchebags...... I am sooo happy he killed himself...

I say : Internet Control........

[Lamb Boy]

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Gun "control" in many different ways directly contributed to the circumstances.

My friend has the best idea ... all schools should start issuing security cards and you can only get into the classes you are registered with. That and have an override where you can make everyone’s card functionless and lock down every room with the switch of the button.

At my job my security card gets me into the parking garage, I have to use it to access the floor I am working on and then I have to use it just to get into the work area on that floor.

It's not that expensive and if you're worried about who is going to pay for the increased security don't be. We should pay for things that are beyond necessity. Also think about how much $$ our economy will not gain because there are 30 less MOTIVATED ppl in our system. By comparison we only lost one complete loser on that day. If we were really smart the intelligent ppl would go around eliminating the world of stupid raging losers. Basically I am saying that we can't keep allowing morons to kill useful, thoughtful and intelligent citizens.

I'm all for allowing like ROTC or specially certified teachers and/or students carry guns. Like that USAF guy who was killed ... he should have been allowed to carry a firearm w/o a doubt.

What a waste ...

[Siggie]

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Setting up that sort of system would be very expensive. Every door in every building? Even in public universities?

The guy didn't go on a shooting spree because he was mad at rich people either. He could have been insane! That may have been one of the reasons that made sense to him, but he had a break with reality.

[Siamanto]

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I really doubt we are going to get gun control legislation passed under this administration. People felt the same way after what happened at Columbine High School and nothing got done.

Hopefully, after Bush The (criminal) Clown leaves the White House. But will gun control be sufficient when the "Wild West mentality" is deeply rooted in the US? Of course, it may help.

[Siamanto]

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I am still on the agreement for less guns though. I heard that in European countries like England people are not allowed to own guns so the annual gunshot fatalities are 5 or 6. On the other hand, in the US the annual gunshot fatallities are over 10,000. England has 60.6 million people and the US has 300 million people. If Britain's population was also 300 million they would only be losing about 25 people a year while the US loses 10,000.

I totally agree with you. Other statistics that may corroborate your thinking:
1- The 1992 Los Angeles riots took the lives of 53 people in 5 days in LA only

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89meutes_de_2005_dans_les_banlieues_fran%C3%A7aises#Bilan

2- The 2005 French riots took 0 lives in 23 days nationwide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

P.S.
Just curious, where did you read that "n the US the annual gunshot fatallities are over 10,000?"
I'm not an expert on the subject - and have no interest, actually - but what I found - with a real quick search - suggests over 30,000???

http://www.fkassociates.com/guns.html

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2004/01/07/Living_Next_Door_to_a_Gun_Culture/

[Siamanto]

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The gun control legislature does not work for the simple reason that the people who are out shooting people are not buying their guns legally and registering them, etc. The laws are targeted at the wrong people.

I wouldn't be so sure. I have seen footage where kids spent their Sunday with their fathers shooting firearms - not small ones, legally purchased firearms. How sad.
Statistics from comparable countries - i.e. Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada... - suggest otherwise.

On the flip side of that, if guns were more widely available, I think most would think twice before pulling a gun on someone.

Yes, they will "think twice" to better organize themselves and become even more efficient, dangerous and deadly. Isn't what the Axis of Terror - i.e. US, UK, Israel - achieved in the "fight against terrorism?"
Violence breeds violence and it is about time to reconsider the "Wild West" mentality...before the entire planet is transformed into Iraq???

You can't compare to European countries because there are sooooo many other differences.

1- What do you think are the relevant "sooooo many other differences?"
2- If Gun Control is one of the differences, do you think that it helps - even if not sufficient in itself?

Besides, the military issues a rifle to every 18+ yo male in Switzerland and they don't lose their tempers and go shoot people.

I'm not that familiar with the Swiss laws but, it seems to be relatively regulated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland

As for "they not losing their temper," facts suggest otherwise:
1- " Approximately 300 deaths per year involve the use of Swiss army guns, mostly suicides and family murders.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland
2- The population of Switzerland is 7.5M
3- The population of the US is about 300M i.e. about 40 times that of Switzerland

40 * 300 = 12,000????

[LadySilver]

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Hopefully, after Bush The (criminal) Clown leaves the White House. But will gun control be sufficient when the "Wild West mentality" is deeply rooted in the US? Of course, it may help.

It might not be sufficient enough - you never know - but at least it will be a start to something.

[sev_zeytun]

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Hopefully, after Bush The (criminal) Clown leaves the White House. But will gun control be sufficient when the "Wild West mentality" is deeply rooted in the US? Of course, it may help.

Also depends on people actually voting. Voter turnout in America is ridiculously low. In our last local elections for district assemly and other local positions voter turnout was less than 7%! Most people here just don't really seem to care who is controlling them. It's really sad . So, if people don't vote we might have someone even worse.

Also, I got the statistics from my US history teacher a little while ago. He tends to understate things anyway.