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  • #21
    Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

    Originally posted by robertik1 View Post
    kurds, turds theyre all the same.
    Kurds have different origin (not homogenous). But Kurds are not Turks.

    Inventing a new term called "Iranic", Azeris now claim that Ottoman Empire was a part of Iranic Empire!!!!


    List of Iranic states and empires.

    History of Greater Iran

    Empires of Persia · Kings of Persia
    Pre-modern
    Before Islam [show]
    BCE
    Zayandeh River Civilization prehistoric–?
    Sialk civilization 7500–1000
    Jiroft civilization (Aratta) 3000–?
    Proto-Elamite civilization 3200–2800
    Bactria-Margiana Complex 2200–1700
    Elamite dynasties 2800–550
    Kingdom of Mannai 10th–7th cent.
    Median Empire 728–550
    Achaemenid Empire 550–330
    Seleucid Empire 330–150
    Greco-Bactrian Kingdom 250-125
    Parthian Empire 248–CE 224
    CE
    Kushan Empire 30–275
    Sassanid Empire 224–651
    Hephthalite Empire 425–557
    Kabul-Shahi dynasty 565–670

    After Islamic Conquest [show]
    Patriarchal Caliphate 637–651
    Umayyad Caliphate 661–750
    Abbasid Caliphate 750–1258
    Tahirid dynasty 821–873
    Alavid dynasty 864–928
    Saffarid dynasty 861–1003
    Samanid dynasty 819–999
    Ziyarid dynasty 928–1043
    Buyid Dynasty 934–1055
    Ghaznavid Empire 975–1187
    Ghori dynasty 1149–1212
    Seljuk Empire 1037–1194
    Khwarezmid dynasty 1077–1231
    Kartids dynasty 1231-1389
    Ilkhanate 1256–1353
    Muzaffarid dynasty 1314–1393
    Chupanid dynasty 1337–1357
    Jalayerid dynasty 1339–1432
    Timurid Empire 1370–1506
    Qara Qoyunlu Turcomans 1407–1468
    Aq Qoyunlu Turcomans 1378–1508
    Safavid Empire 1501–1722*
    Mughal Empire 1526–1857
    Hotaki dynasty 1722–1729
    Afsharid dynasty 1736–1802
    * or 1736

    Modern
    SSR = Soviet Socialist Republic
    Afghanistan [show]
    Durrani Empire 1748–1823
    British and Russian influence 1826–1919
    Independence and civil war 1919–1929
    Mohammedzai rule 1929–1973
    Republic of Afghanistan 1973–1978
    Communist rule 1978–1992
    Recent history of Afghanistan since 1992
    Timeline

    Azerbaijan [show]
    Khanates of the Caucasus 1722–1828
    Russian Rule 1828–1917
    Democratic Republic 1918–1920
    Azerbaijan SSR 1920–1991
    Republic of Azerbaijan since 1991

    Bahrain [show]
    Portuguese rule 1521–1602
    British Treaty 1820–1971
    Kingdom of Bahrain since 1971

    Iran [show]
    Zand dynasty 1750–1794
    Qajar dynasty 1781–1925
    Pahlavi dynasty 1925–1979
    Iranian Revolution 1979
    Provisional Government 1979
    Islamic Republic of Iran since 1979



    Hashimite monarchy 1920–1958
    Coup and Republic 1958–2003


    Tajikistan [show]
    Emirate of Bukhara 1785–1920
    Bukharan / Uzbek SSR 1920–1929
    Tajik Autonomous SSR 1929
    Tajik SSR 1929–1991
    Republic of Tajikistan since 1991

    Uzbekistan [show]
    Emirate of Bukhara 1785–1920
    Uzbek SSR 1924–1991
    Independence 1991
    Republic of Uzbekistan since 1991

    The following is a list of Iranic states and empires. It includes both states and empires founded by the Iranian peoples and those that have been heavily affected by Iranian civilization or culture.

    Contents [hide]
    1 Modern nations
    1.1 De facto states
    1.2 Autonomous entities
    1.3 Former and Defunct countries and autonomous regions
    2 Historical Kingdoms and empires
    2.1 Africa
    2.2 Anatolia
    2.3 Caucasus
    2.4 Central Asia
    2.5 Europe
    2.6 Iranian plateau and Middle East
    2.7 South Asia
    3 See also
    4 Notes



    (Modern nations)

    Afghanistan
    Iran
    Tajikistan

    De facto states
    South Ossetia

    Autonomous entities

    Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County
    North Ossetia-Alania
    North-West Frontier Province
    Balochistan (Pakistan)
    Iraqi Kurdistan

    Former and Defunct countries and autonomous regions

    Daoud's Republic of Afghanistan
    Lasted from July 17, 1973 to April 28, 1978.
    Democratic Republic of Afghanistan
    Lasted from 1978 to 1992.
    Kingdom of Kurdistan (Iraq)
    Lasted from September 1922 to July 1924.
    Kingdom of Kurdistan (Anatolia)
    Established in 1925, stayed independent[citation needed] for 3 months.
    Republic of Ararat
    Lasted from 1927 to 1931.
    Republic of Mahabad
    Lasted from January 22, 1946 to December 15, 1946.
    Tajik ASSR
    Lasted until 1929.
    Tajik SSR
    Lasted from 1929 to 1991.
    Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic
    Lasted from June to August 1993.

    Historical Kingdoms and empires

    In Africa?
    Bazrangids
    Kilwa Empire
    Rustamids
    Zanj Empire

    (In Anatolia)
    Ottoman Empire
    (1299-1922)[1][2] (because the culture of the ruling dynasty, the House of Osman, was largely derived from the Persian culture, the Ottomans may also be regarded as Turkic Persianate; see also: Turko-Persian Tradition)[3][4][5][6]

    [edit] Caucasus
    Alans
    Chosroid Dynasty
    a dynasty of Iranian origin and a branch of the Mihranids.
    Cimmerians
    ancient equestrian nomads of Iranian or Thracian origin
    Mihranids
    Parthian or Persian ruling family of Arran from the 6th century to the 8th century.
    Shaddadid
    Kurdish rulers of Armenia and Arran from 951 to 1174 or 1199.
    Shirvanshahs
    Persianized family of original Arab descent that ruled Shirvan from 801 to 1538.

    (In Central Asia)

    Bactria-Margiana
    ca. 2200–1700 BCE.
    Sogdia
    Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
    Lasted from 250 until 125 BCE.
    Turan (Avesta)
    Massagetae
    Hephthalite
    Lasted from 425 until 557 CE.
    Samanid dynasty
    Lasted from 819 until 999 CE.
    Ghurids
    Islamic Tajik dynasty, lasted from 543-613 until 1148-1215
    Hotaki
    Pashtun dynasty, lasted from 1709 until 1738.
    Ghaznavid dynasty
    Ruled by a predominantly Persian-speaking family of Turkic mamluk origin; the Turkic identity of the dynasty is controversial.[7][8] Lasted from 962 until 1187
    Khwarezm Shahs
    Ruled by a predominantly Persian-speaking family of Turkic mamluk origin; Turkic identity of the dynasty is controversial.[9] Lasted from 1097 until 1231.
    Timurid dynasty
    Turkicized and Persianized dynasty of Mongol origin. Lasted from 1370 until 1506
    Durrani Empire
    Lasted from 1747 until 1823.

    (In Europe)

    Scythia
    Sarmatians

    (Iranian plateau and Middle East)

    Ayyubids
    Kurdish
    Mannaeans
    Possibly an Indo-Iranian peoples, 10th to 7th centuries BCE.
    Median Empire
    First Iranian empire, lasted from 727 until 549 BCE.
    Achaemenid Empire
    Second Iranian empire, lasted from 559 until 330 BCE.
    Parthia
    Third Iranian empire, lasted from 63 BCE until 220 CE.
    Sassanid Empire
    Fourth Iranian empire, lasted from 226 until 651 CE.
    Abbasid Caliphate
    Persianized Arab Islamic dynasty which lasted from 750 until 1258 CE.
    Rawadids
    Kurdicized family of original Arab descent
    Buyid dynasty
    Persian Shi'a dynastic confederation from Daylaman
    Sajids
    Sogdian dynasty ruling NW Ira from 889 A.D. to 929 A.D.
    Sallarid
    Daylamite dynasty ruling NW Iran from 942 A.D. to 979 A.D.
    Justanid
    Daylamite dynasty. From 791 A.D. to 974 A.D.
    Hasanwayhid
    Kurdish dynasty. Lasted from 959 until 1015 CE.
    Annazid
    Kurdish dynasty. Lasted from 990 until 1116 CE.
    Seljuq Empire
    Ruled by a Persianized Turkic dynasty of Oghuz Turkic origin. [7][10][11] Lasted from 1073 until 1307.
    Ziyarid
    Iranian dynasty that ruled in the Caspian sea provinces of Gorgan and Mazandaran. Lasted from 928 until 1043
    Safavid dynasty
    Fifth Iranian empire, lasted from 1502 until 1722.
    Afsharid dynasty
    Sixth Iranian empire, lasted from 1736 until 1796
    Zand dynasty
    Dynasty of Lor descent which ruled in Southern Iran, lasted from 1750 until 1794.
    Qajar dynasty
    Seventh Iranian empire, lasted from 1781 until 1925.
    Pahlavi dynasty
    Last Iranian dynasty, lasted from 1925 until 1979.

    (In South Asia)

    Indo-Scythians
    Pallavas
    Pahlava rulers, and founders, of the Pallava Kingdom in southern India, lasting from the 6th century to the late 9th century.
    Kadava kingdom
    Rulers claimed descent from the Pallavas, 13th and 14th centuries.
    Mughal Empire
    Persianized mixed Persian, Turkic, and Mongolic Islamic Indian dynasty, lasting from April 21, 1526 to September 21, 1857.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_and_empires
    Last edited by oslonor; 06-04-2008, 05:20 PM.
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    • #22
      Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

      xxxx them both.

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      • #23
        Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

        Originally posted by robertik1 View Post
        xxxx them both.
        You are not in politics. You are probably a Skin Head.
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        • #24
          Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

          Originally posted by oslonor View Post
          You are not in politics. You are probably a Skin Head.
          xxxx them too. Im an Armenian Nationalist to be exact. I dont forget what the Kurds have done to Armenians during the genocide.


          What kind of name is oslonor anyway? Sounds turdish.
          Last edited by robertik1; 06-04-2008, 05:45 PM.

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          • #25
            Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

            Originally posted by oslonor View Post
            You are not in politics.


            Neither are you f**k face!
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #26
              Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

              Originally posted by Armanen View Post
              Neither are you f**k face!
              Two pro-Iranian skin heads. Their enemies are Anatolian turks and Kurds!!!!!

              They have no problem with Iranians and Azeris in The Republic.
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              • #27
                Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

                Originally posted by oslonor View Post
                Two pro-Iranian skin heads. Their enemies are Anatolian turks and Kurds!!!!!

                They have no problem with Iranians and Azeris in The Republic.

                Your an obvious turdish spambot. No use to talking to you.

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                • #28
                  Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

                  Persian


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                  • #29
                    Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

                    oslonor, how frequently do you find such specimens of women with the look you described as "Persian" amongst Persians? I'd say that look of woman you chose to describe "Persian" is more typical in Germany for example. Young beautiful Persian women have their own characteristic look, and I feel you failed to exemplify it in your choice.

                    And why on earth are you facing off a young radiating women for the "Persian" side against a middle aged woman of plain style for the "Iranian/Azeri" side? Your motives in creating bias are what I see, that's not exactly appreciated by me. How old are you anyway?

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                    • #30
                      Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

                      Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
                      oslonor, how frequently do you find such specimens of women with the look you described as "Persian" amongst Persians? I'd say that look of woman you chose to describe "Persian" is more typical in Germany for example. Young beautiful Persian women have their own characteristic look, and I feel you failed to exemplify it in your choice.

                      And why on earth are you facing off a young radiating women for the "Persian" side against a middle aged woman of plain style for the "Iranian/Azeri" side? Your motives in creating bias are what I see, that's not exactly appreciated by me. How old are you anyway?
                      Sorry. I am not sure what you are talking about. Persians do not have blond hair and blue eyes. Those are lies by Azeri Turks. According to their criteria , there are no "Persians".

                      This is anthropology: those picture represent sub-racial types.

                      Persian is nordic. Iranian is Dinaric alpine. That is the difference. Hair color is irrelevant.
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