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  • #31
    Re: Kurdistan

    Originally posted by Mouse
    deemed "enemy status" that it's almost scary to imagine what would happen if roles were reversed and Armenians were placed in positions of power and domination.
    That's the goal! The enemy never showed us any mercy and none shall be shown to them if/when the roles are reversed.
    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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    • #32
      Re: Kurdistan

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      Welcome to the forum!
      Hello, thx!

      Originally posted by Hye_Psycho View Post
      while i appreciate your thought process, i have to disagree about placing any land in Kurdish hands

      Kurds are a malicious, repugnant and uncivilised people. They had an equal role to play in the genocide, and were in fact were instrumental to the ethnic cleansing Of Armenians right up to the 1970's and 80's. These folk have apparently lived here for 'thousands of years' had a complete ethnic majority in many places, but have achieved nothing, established no state infrastructure and there main claim to fame is tormenting death and destruction upon blameless unsuspecting victims.

      These people are a disease and those lands are better off remaining a rabid, multi-cultural, hotbed of 'nationalist Kurds', then a homogentisic Kurdish cesspool, predisposed to all types of western infiltration.

      And Turkic peoples have little in relation to those in Mongolia. The Mongolian hordes that came to once dominate parts of our region worked hand in hand with Armenians and other indigenous peoples. I would be cautious in implicating Turks as Mongols and vice versa.

      The enemy of my enemy could indeed be considered a friend. But people have to realise that the Kurds are the enemy. Befriending and bestowing good will upon our destroyers is an all to common sad reality in some political and social circles.
      With this thinking you will not achieve anything either my friend, you will be no better than the kurds. By the way, Mongols do play a big part in the Turkic genepool.

      Here's a picture of Serkan Yilmaz. Turkish kickboxer.

      Last edited by TheGreat; 12-08-2008, 03:12 AM.

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      • #33
        Re: Kurdistan

        Not I do care, If we are mongols or not, but This is hardly a sciencific approach..

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        • #34
          Re: Kurdistan

          Let's just agree to leave Mongols out of this discussion as they tend to be good people and I've only had positive experiences with them. But it is a fact that the seljuks, ottomans and other turkic tribes who conquered Asia Minor are of the Mongol-Turkic racial and lingustic family.
          For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
          to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



          http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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          • #35
            Re: Kurdistan

            Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
            Jesus. Some of you posters that come here are filled with so much rage and animosity towards certain groups deemed "enemy status" that it's almost scary to imagine what would happen if roles were reversed and Armenians were placed in positions of power and domination. Let's not let our dark sides control us, shall we? And let's keep the simplistic view of the world for the birds, eh?
            Yes mouse, I am filled with rage. Are you not filled with rage?

            Is my rage unjustified?

            Perhaps you have not dealt with these folk before? Perhaps your life was not ruined like so many others. Did these louts force themselves into your home? Rape your woman? Make death threats, force you out of your villages, destroy/steal all your possessions.

            If these things did happen to our family and kin, and you are not filled with rage, then I really do struggle to understand your reasoning.

            please Enlighten me. i need calming down.

            Originally posted by TheGreat View Post
            With this thinking you will not achieve anything either my friend, you will be no better than the kurds.
            That’s fine. What exactly did you disagree with.

            Originally posted by Armanen View Post
            Let's just agree to leave Mongols out of this discussion as they tend to be good people and I've only had positive experiences with them. But it is a fact that the seljuks, ottomans and other turkic tribes who conquered Asia Minor are of the Mongol-Turkic racial and lingustic family.

            That’s correct. But I have never been one to pay much attention to the lingusitical distribution of race.

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            • #36
              Re: Kurdistan

              Most important connection is blood/racial followed by the supporting role of culture and language which often go hand in hand.

              I just wanted to state that we shouldn't associate Mongols with turks as the two are now quite removed from one another in genetic makeup and even culture.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              • #37
                Re: Kurdistan

                Most turks have their roots in Mongolia and that's to where they should return.
                This is nonsense. Although there is not precise data on the subject, the fact is that a large number of Turks of Turkey are simply the descendents of the indigenous inhabitants who adopted the language and culture of the conquerors. Some of today's Turks are indeed descended from Armenians. Physiologically, Turks resemble their neighboring nations more than the people of Kirgizia and China's Xinjiang region.

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                • #38
                  Re: Kurdistan

                  The voice of reason has spoken. However, certain members here love to poke fun at the Central Asian origin of the Turkish phenomenon and attribute it to modern day Turks, because Turks regard themselves as a race (and we play along with it) and this only helps to muddle their analysis.
                  Last edited by jgk3; 12-09-2008, 07:16 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Kurdistan

                    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
                    The voice of reason has spoken. However, certain members here love to poke fun at the Central Asian origin of the Turkish phenomenon and attribute it to modern day Turks, because Turks regard themselves as a race (and we play along with it) and this only helps to muddle their analysis.
                    Yep! The bottomline is turks don't belong in the ARMENIAN HIGHLANDS, they can go wherever they want, but occupied Armenia will be returned to us one day soon!
                    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    • #40
                      Re: Kurdistan

                      >>>> http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

                      Here some pages on Armenian/Kurdish Relations :

                      ADIC - VIII - Les Kurdes
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/kurdes_0.htm


                      Please

                      - notice (and help me) for the Kurdish presence in Armenian Literature:
                      ADIC - VIII - La présence kurde dans la littérature arménienne
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/kurdes_5armeniens.htm


                      - enjoy these (very important) musical pages published in Moscow in 1903 by our beloved Father Komitas:
                      ADIC - VIII - Քրդական եղանակներ - Կոմիտաս Վարդապետ - Chansons kurdes transcrites par Komidas et publiées à Moscou -
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/kurdes_5komitas00.htm


                      - help me to find on these important historical facts on Kemalist massacres of Kurds:
                      ADIC - VIII - Repressions et massacres kemalistes des Kurdes
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/kurdes_8kemalistes.htm


                      - help me to find Kurds asking for forgiveness :
                      ADIC - VIII - Memoire, reconnnaissances et repentances des Kurdes
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/kurdes_9memoire.htm


                      Thank you. Take care. Nil (Paris)
                      ADIC - VIII - Les peuples et pays voisins de l'Arménie
                      http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/8environnements/0caucasie/pays_peuples_voisins.htm

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