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  • and by the way, i agree with you, capitalism was a success, before the 20th century, after that its progressive elements were finished, and now it is no longer progressive, but reactionary for human advancement

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    • Originally posted by Shahumyan racism is a tool of the certain sections of politics, they are intertwined, and cant be seperated.

      As for the state economy, i dont see how this has failed, what are your parametres for failure? Do you think capitalism is a success?

      for me the parametres are employment, standard of living, security and so on
      Waiting online for 2 hours for toilet paper with a ration in your hand and then when you get there they are all out of toilet paper is a FAILURE. Waiting on a line around the block for bread is a FAILURE.

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      • ahuh,

        a failure of what?
        Stalinism, not socialism

        so what?

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        • Originally posted by Shahumyan ahuh,

          a failure of what?
          Stalinism, not socialism

          so what?
          Name a socialist state that's succeeded. Otherwise, put your money where your xxxxing mouth is and move to China.

          Do you have a job, by the way? A place to live perhaps? Do you buy consumer goods?

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          • Originally posted by loseyourname Name a socialist state that's succeeded. Otherwise, put your money where your xxxxing mouth is and move to China.

            Do you have a job, by the way? A place to live perhaps? Do you buy consumer goods?
            Most of Europe is Socialist.

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            • Originally posted by Arvestaked Most of Europe is Socialist.
              No they aren't. They operate by a free market system with selected markets run by the state. Shahumyan is advocating every market be run by the state. So far as I know, even China doesn't go that far.

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              • Originally posted by PASAMONSTER hey lets leave politics out of racism OK?
                I hate to say it, but you have a point. Racism is a product of individual thinking. It existed when all of humanity still roamed around in tribes, and has nothing to do with politics.

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                • Originally posted by loseyourname They operate by a free market system with selected markets run by the state.

                  That is socialism. Socialism is the intermediate state between Capitalism and Communism. What Shahumyan is advocating is Communistic. Most of Europe, including France, is Socialist. Canada is as well.

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                  • Originally posted by loseyourname I hate to say it, but you have a point. Racism is a product of individual thinking. It existed when all of humanity still roamed around in tribes, and has nothing to do with politics.
                    Was cross-burning a tribal ritual?

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                    • Is cross-burning racism, or is it a symptom of racism? Regardless of what action may be taken in service of racism, racism itself remains a state of mind ingrained in the individualism. It may be fostered by politics and even by certain modern political systems; it is not created by them.

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