Racism

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan racism is a tool of the certain sections of politics, they are intertwined, and cant be seperated.

As for the state economy, i dont see how this has failed, what are your parametres for failure? Do you think capitalism is a success?

for me the parametres are employment, standard of living, security and so on

Yes capitalism was a success, unfortunately the State has grown larger and larger and interferes in the free market.

All political systems, whether democracy, fascism, communism, are socialistic.

racism is a tool of the certain sections of politics, they are intertwined, and cant be seperated.

As for the state economy, i dont see how this has failed, what are your parametres for failure? Do you think capitalism is a success?

for me the parametres are employment, standard of living, security and so on

[PASAMONSTER]

hey lets leave politics out of racism OK?

[patlajan]

Originally posted by Shahumyan patlajan, i dont understand, what was your point/question, apologies for not understanding, any clearer please? thanks

I'm talking about the failure of the state run economy. Isn't that also related to what is being discussed? All the disctincions you made have the state run economy in common right?

patlajan, i dont understand, what was your point/question, apologies for not understanding, any clearer please? thanks

Originally posted by Anonymouse Oy vay! Not the relativists coming along and giving new names to what is essentially the same idea.

Listen Marxist from Manchestor, you can call it Marxism, Communism, Lenninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, the point is, the idea started from Marx, it's the same idea. Ideas have consequences. It only showed that if the idea was taken to that logical end, that was the result. You don't have to like history, but that is the way it goes.

These ideologies are not the same at all, stalinism is the removal of the capitalist as the ruling class and swapping it with party beurocrats, leaving the concentration of power in hands of beurocrats, not workers

Marxism/Leninism/Trotskyism are the opposite, maintaining firm power in hands of workers to choose and run the country.

What do you base your argument on? 1 experiment (the soviet experiement). Try looking at the leninist part of the SU, or indeed the Paris commune. I want to know what sources you use....they seem very unreliable

[PASAMONSTER]

hey jahnnamm sorry if i'm trying to be a little helpfull, I'm trying to do my good in this community, there are some people that can't put up pictures for avatars because they don't know how to adjust the pictures.

and once again i appologize for trying to be helpfull.

[patlajan]

Originally posted by Shahumyan ive read animal farm, and Orwell was a famous trotskyist, maybe your lecturer didnt tell u this as he was rogering you up the ass?

it was a critique of stalinism, not communism, like i said he was a trotskyist, which is the continuation of the school of marxism

Thank you for the insightful explanation. Now can you come up an argument to make the endless line for bread that I'm on any shorter? Thanks

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan ive read animal farm, and Orwell was a famous trotskyist, maybe your lecturer didnt tell u this as he was rogering you up the ass?

it was a critique of stalinism, not communism, like i said he was a trotskyist, which is the continuation of the school of marxism

Oy vay! Not the relativists coming along and giving new names to what is essentially the same idea.

Listen Marxist from Manchestor, you can call it Marxism, Communism, Lenninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, the point is, the idea started from Marx, it's the same idea. Ideas have consequences. It only showed that if the idea was taken to that logical end, that was the result. You don't have to like history, but that is the way it goes.

[jahannam]

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