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  • #71
    Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

    Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
    Guest Column: Libyan war must be acknowledged

    By Megan Ananian, Fourth-year accounting student
    [email protected]

    Massacres, genocide can be stopped by awareness, should not be ignored

    From the 1890s to the 1920s, Turkey massacred a large percentage of the Armenian population for spreading ideas about civil rights. This spurred the first international human rights movement and the American Red Cross to embark on its first mission to aid Armenian survivors of massacres in 1896.

    Although the public’s disapproval of these atrocities increased, the punishments for these crimes grew weaker. In 1921, the Turkish trials were abandoned while war crime prisoners were traded and freed. The U.S. needed Turkey as an ally because it was the core to oil policy in the Middle East. Baroness Caroline Cox of British Parliament responded in 1999, “If nations are allowed to commit genocide with impunity ... there is a real danger that other brutal regimes will be encouraged to attempt genocides. Unless we speak today of the Armenian genocide ... we shall leave this century of unprecedented genocides with this blot on our consciences.” The Armenian Genocide is looked at as an archetype for the genocides that ensued. Even Hitler remarked with indifference, stating, “Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”

    As you read this, hundreds of Libyans are dying while attempting to overthrow their dictator in the hope for democracy that has been spreading across the Middle East. The oppressive government has disconnected the people’s Internet and thrown out the media in attempts to permanently silence the movement for change. Through courageous acts of protestors, social media has exposed the atrocities in Libya. A Twitter activist @ChangeInLibya in Tripoli published, “LIBYANS ARE BEING MASSACRED RIGHT NOW.. LISTEN TO THE NEWS.. HELP US PLS HELP US.. TRIPOLI HAS 1000S OF DEATHS FOR GODS SAKE WORLD WAKE UP.” President Barack Obama finally acknowledged the violence Wednesday night, while major news outlets allowed Justin Bieber’s haircut to overshadow the selfish complaints of increasing oil prices as a result of the protests.

    The question is quite simple: At what point are the diplomatic compromises no longer acceptable to the basic principles of man? How much genocide, in the name of religion, nationalism or race, is required before the people of this planet are willing to stand up for another man’s basic right to live? What would the world be like if nations acted from the heart instead of cloaking black and white with the “grays” of diplomacy?

    Friends, Gamexxxx family and fellow human beings, we cannot let the Libyan voices be silenced and forgotten like the Armenians’. History does not have to repeat itself. We can’t save every life, but we can spread awareness. Martin Luther King Jr. said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.” Look beyond the triviality of your problems, and help our generation change the world for the better.


    xxxx = c ock
    Someone should tell this 4th year accounting student that Libya isn't in the Middle East, LOL.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #72
      Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      In geopolitical terms the potential fall of Bahrain is of more strategic importance than Libya. However, the Libya story is easier to package and feed the sheeple.
      The revolt in Bahrain has socio-economic causes and it has already been crushed or at least dampened. The Iranians aren't a counter to Saudi Arabia in military terms and it's not like the Saudis and Americans are going to let Bahrain go.

      Libya on the other hand is basically in a state of civil war and it clearly has very serious political problems. The problem with Libya is that it's a very backward, tribal country.

      King Gaddafi and his cronies!



      A meeting of more than 200 African kings and traditional rulers has bestowed the title "king of kings" on Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. The rulers, wearing gold crowns, sequined capes and colourful robes met in the Libyan town of Benghazi in what was billed as a first of its kind.

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      • #73
        Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Someone should tell this 4th year accounting student that Libya isn't in the Middle East, LOL.
        A lot of Americans think that Arabs come from Europe.

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        • #74
          Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

          Originally posted by retro View Post
          A lot of Americans think that Arabs come from Europe.
          They also think Persians are Arabs.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #75
            Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

            Originally posted by retro View Post
            The revolt in Bahrain has socio-economic causes and it has already been crushed or at least dampened. The Iranians aren't a counter to Saudi Arabia in military terms and it's not like the Saudis and Americans are going to let Bahrain go.
            The revolt has been dampened but there are still protests and things can get out of hand. The saudi's may have shiny toys in their military but they have never been in a war, small conflicts here and there, so they have a lot to prove. Bahrain has a shiite majority which is ruled by a sunni royal family. Saudi Arabia has a shiite minority who may be inspired to revolt or demand more rights if their Bahraini co-religionists are able to overthrow the royal family or get concessions. In this case, Iran would then have more influence on both sides of the Straits of Hormuz, and further increase their soft and hard power reach.

            The saudi's know that they are in a tighter position now than they were just a few weeks ago, and the last thing they want is an uprising. Therefore, yesterday, the king of saudi arabia announced a $36 billion payout to his citizens. The Financial Times headline put it best, "$36 billion Saudi bid to beat unrest."
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #76
              Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta



              A look into what countries buy oil from Libya.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              • #77
                Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

                Originally posted by Armanen View Post

                A look into what countries buy oil from Libya.
                They don't really buy any oil. All those countries have oil companies in Libya and bring their own oil workers. They just pay Gaddafi for the rights to drill and he in turn pays enough to support his military and the Libyan citizens then pockets the rest.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #78
                  Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta



                  Evidence of executions in Libya (video)

                  A video showing the evidence of violence against Libyans has appeared on YouTube.

                  The video shows killed soldiers who had been executed for refusing to fire at
                  the demonstrators, Russian-language MIGnews.com website reported.
                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • #79
                    Re: Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta

                    I guess the U.S. had nothing to do with the uprisings in Libya after all. They probably had nothing to do with the "mercenaries" that they claimed belonged to Gaddafi either.

                    U.S. moving on sanctions against Libya

                    The White House says Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has lost the confidence of his people following brutal attacks by his supporters on protesters demanding his ouster.

                    Obama spokesman Jay Carney stopped short of calling for Gadhafi to step down. But he says it's clear that Gadhafi's legitimacy has been "reduced to zero."

                    Carney's strong words were a shift for the White House, which has thus far refrained from naming Gadhafi personally. The ramped up rhetoric came as the last U.S. citizens in Libya were evacuated Friday.

                    The U.S. also announced Friday that it was suspending embassy operations in Tripoli and moving forward on plans to implement sanctions against Libya.

                    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...sanctions.html
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #80
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