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  • #31
    Homosexuality is not a societal ill. Homelessness, drug abuse, single teen parents, domestic violence - these are societal ills. Homosexuality is the least of anybody's worries. Furthermore, marriage will not increase the amount of homosexuals in the world. All it would do is extend an open hand to them, allowing them to join the rest of society and letting them no that they are not hated and they are not judged for being what they naturally are. You may not like it and you may not find it normal, but the simple fact is, that is their nature. It is in some persons' natures to murder and rape each other. This is not pleasant, but it is natural. This is the kind of behavior we should be regulating, not a person's sexual preference.

    Homosexuality is here to stay. There is nothing any of you can do about it. Ostracizing these people and forcing them back into the closet may appease your sorry sense of righteous disgust, but it will only exacerbate the real problem here - the fact that a significant portion of the population is being discriminated against because of sexual preference. In case you haven't read a job application lately, that's illegal. If two people love each other and want to spend the rest of their life together, then they should be able to crystallize their feelings the same way that the rest of society does, in marriage. We're not talking holy matrimony here. Your church and your God do not have to recognize the love between two people of the same sex. Nonetheless, this nation has a stated obligation not to discriminate against people because of race, religion, creed, age, or sexual preference. This is the law, and not allowing homosexuals to marry is in violation of this basic principle of human decency.

    I voted yes.

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    • #32
      What homosexuals do in their privacy is their own business. Granting homosexuals the right to marry, is not so much about the institution of marriage or the piece of paper, it is what is implied in it.

      The moral relativism that pervades would allow for anything overtime to become "right". Changing the meaning of man and woman infused together as representing the concept of life and sustenance, and replacing it with something like homosexuality, is like changing the changing a yardstick into centimeters and insisting on using it as a yardstick. In both cases one cannot change the definition of that thing, and still use it as a reliable source for measure.

      And that we have a "democratic state" that decides what is right or wrong, in other words, even morality becomes a concept of majorities, is a perversion of every ethical code that exists.

      This is another reason why I don't vote.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Anonymouse What homosexuals do in their privacy is their own business. Granting homosexuals the right to marry, is not so much about the institution of marriage or the piece of paper, it is what is implied in it.

        The moral relativism that pervades would allow for anything overtime to become "right".
        What is relativistic about it? Homosexuality is not wrong. Marriage is defined as the union of two people who love each other and wish to spend the rest of their lives together. It is a state institution and it should be defined by the state. As you said, one morality in such a gray area should not be forced on another. Therefore, your morality (which is a religious viewpoint, unless you have some other ethical theory on which you base this) should not be forced on a homosexual in a nation where state and church are separate entities.

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        • #34
          I am extremely hurt by some of your posts, I didn't want to even post here! However I cannot keep myself from saying what I have to say, that is: What is it any of your buisness how someone else lives their life? Does it affect your life? Why would you want to make another person unhappy, people talk about peace on earth and no hatred yet they sit there and vote NO for homosexual marriages because they are not homosexual and they don't know what its like. How would you feel if this world was different if the "moraly" right way to be is homosexual and yet you felt straight but everyone voted against you and basically said no you don't have any rights your straight you are an outsider "its adam and steve not adam and eve" You cant be married to your soulmate! Its heartbreaking that people will stand up for their free will and their rights, but when it comes to the free will and rights of others....

          My deepiest sympothy goes out to all of you that voted No.

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          • #35
            Look at the strides that have been made, Aries. You will win the war. The looks on the faces of those couples flocking to the courts in San Francisco is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.

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            • #36
              OK on a technical note that poll should be done over because the creater let their biases affect them.
              Notice the the yes is a "Yes" and the no is a "NO" with two capital letters. I voted NO but now I can't help but think that Spiral subliminaly affected my vote. I feel so used.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by loseyourname Look at the strides that have been made, Aries. You will win the war. The looks on the faces of those couples flocking to the courts in San Francisco is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.
                HAHAHA Beautiful? Calm down, Capt. Save-a-Homo. It's cool if you think they should have the right to be married but "beautiful" seems to be pushing it a little.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by patlajan OK on a technical note that poll should be done over because the creater let their biases affect them.
                  Notice the the yes is a "Yes" and the no is a "NO" with two capital letters. I voted NO but now I can't help but think that Spiral subliminaly affected my vote. I feel so used.
                  Eggplant, you're just too much.

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                  • #39
                    it doesnt need to get this complicated, I think it simply should be a "No".....itll solve all the problems!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by patlajan OK on a technical note that poll should be done over because the creater let their biases affect them.
                      Notice the the yes is a "Yes" and the no is a "NO" with two capital letters. I voted NO but now I can't help but think that Spiral subliminaly affected my vote. I feel so used.

                      She's got SKILLS!

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