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Genetic Intelligence - Fact or Myth?

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  • #41
    i believe that intelligence is genetic

    i dont feel like posting articles and what not, but this is my opinion
    words are meaningless and forgettable...
    words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm.

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    • #42
      As usual... i havn't read everything.

      I lecture on this is my psych class...

      Intelligence is a product of both the environment and genetics.

      Some have an advantage at birth, but in the first couple years of life the number of neural connections that are made will pretty much determine how intelligent a person will be. It's that simple really. If you dont have the connections, there's only so much you can do. *shrug*
      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
      -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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      • #43
        What you have here are a few individuals ( egalitarian leaning ), who themselves haven't read the basics on genetics or heredity, and are disseminating their opinions of it ought to be environmental. Environment is only a minor factor in genetics, and humans have been breeding animals for thousands of years with their knowledge of genetics.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Siggie As usual... i havn't read everything.

          I lecture on this is my psych class...

          Intelligence is a product of both the environment and genetics.

          Some have an advantage at birth, but in the first couple years of life the number of neural connections that are made will pretty much determine how intelligent a person will be. It's that simple really. If you dont have the connections, there's only so much you can do. *shrug*
          What you have here is people who thinks they are better placed than the large majority of biologists, anthroplogist, geneticist etc.. to say what a race constitute. And to support their claims uses studies that are all financed from one organization that has been found in 1937 to "prove" white superiority and was a supporter of the NAZIsm.

          One wonder, if it is so obvious what they claim, why any other researchs which were not financed by that organization concluded the contrary of what they affirmed. Maybe all those searchers, all illterate like me of heredity and genetic must takes courses given by the PhD in everything of this board.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Fadix What you have here is people who thinks they are better placed than the large majority of biologists, anthroplogist, geneticist etc.. to say what a race constitute. And to support their claims uses studies that are all financed from one organization that has been found in 1937 to "prove" white superiority and was a supporter of the NAZIsm.

            One wonder, if it is so obvious what they claim, why any other researchs which were not financed by that organization concluded the contrary of what they affirmed. Maybe all those searchers, all illterate like me of heredity and genetic must takes courses given by the PhD in everything of this board.
            And now you appeal to a potential "ally". As soon as you start name calling people "racist" or "white supremacist" you have no argument, you are just name calling. You are saying "They are evil/bad", which is emotion, has nothing to do with logic. All you do is call names and label names. Of course when you have to resort to that it is the most graceless way of saying you've lost the argument. "White supremacy" is the desire to be coerce, and to rule over others, to oppress them. Not one thing I have ever suggested here, nor anyone else has meant anything about oppressing anyone. This is simply ignorant name calling, as usual with the egalitarian corner.
            Last edited by Anonymouse; 03-18-2004, 03:46 PM.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Fadix What you have here is people who thinks they are better placed than the large majority of biologists, anthroplogist, geneticist etc.. to say what a race constitute. And to support their claims uses studies that are all financed from one organization that has been found in 1937 to "prove" white superiority and was a supporter of the NAZIsm.

              One wonder, if it is so obvious what they claim, why any other researchs which were not financed by that organization concluded the contrary of what they affirmed. Maybe all those searchers, all illterate like me of heredity and genetic must takes courses given by the PhD in everything of this board.


              Uhh... People will readily admit that certain breeds of dogs are more intelligent than others why is it so hard to deal w/ the fact that a portion of intelligence is genetic?
              [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
              -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Siggie

                Uhh... People will readily admit that certain breeds of dogs are more intelligent than others why is it so hard to deal w/ the fact that a portion of intelligence is genetic?
                Because it threatens to crumble his egalitarian world view that everyone is equal, and no matter how much you improve "environmental factors" and hire by quotas, or have affirmitive action, it still won't make certain groups any more intelligent than they already are.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Anonymouse Because it threatens to crumble his egalitarian world view that everyone is equal, and no matter how much you improve "environmental factors" and hire by quotas, or have affirmitive action, it still won't make certain groups any more intelligent than they already are.
                  Certain studends of history should know better than to believe in only those things that make them feel good about themselves.

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                  • #49
                    And what would that belief be? That we are not equal? I was unaware eggplants post in the Intellectual Lounge.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Anonymouse And what would that belief be? That we are not equal? I was unaware eggplants post in the Intellectual Lounge.
                      OK then you will have to concede that Asians are better than you in math, due to their genetic makeup.

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