Race

[Anonymouse]

Dan how dare you post a "racist" scientist for daring to not espouse ideological bias. Even though I disagree with alot of your stuff Dan, the only thing I would agree is here, regarding race and inequality.

[Darorinag]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Dan how dare you post a "racist" scientist for daring to not espouse ideological bias. Even though I disagree with alot of your stuff Dan, the only thing I would agree is here, regarding race and inequality.

Yes yes, how dare I post a "white supremacist" scientist!! Duh!!!

Glad to see that there are people out there who see facts no matter how politically incorrect that might be labelled as. There really is nothing racist in claiming that there are racial differences, but I guess some people are uncomfortable with that idea...

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The G Factor - The Book and the Controversy
Prof. Edward Miller

In late March a book by Christopher Brand titled The G Factor: General Intelligence and its implications.
appeared in UK bookstores. It was published by Wiley UK. On April 17, the New York office announced in an
unprecedented action "After careful consideration of the statements made recently by author Christopher Brand
(as reported in the British press), as well as some of the views presented in his work.. , we have decided to
withdraw the book from publication. (Wiley) does not want to support these views by disseminating them or be
associated with a book that makes assertions that we find repellant." (Holden, 1996). It is very unusual for a
publisher to break a contract with an author and announce that the reason for the this action is to prevent the
dissemination of certain views. The question naturally arises as to what are the views whose dissemination they
wish to prevent, and what is the evidence for these views? While Wiley has not been specific as to just what
views that were trying to prevent the dissemination of, one presumes they have to do with racial differences in
intelligence and the implications for economics and educational policy. Wiley announced (McMillen 1996) that
they acted because of "deep ethical beliefs", but what these were was not revealed. One suspects they were that
racial differences and eugenics should not be discussed, but that is merely a guess.

[anileve]

Originally posted by Darorinag Fadix, for starters:

RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective

Professor J. Philippe Rushton
University of Western Ontario

ISBN: 0-9656836-2-1

Same BS from you as usual. Bravo for originality. Can I ask you, do you have a special subscription to all Nazi material on the Internet?

Professor J. Philippe Rushton --------

This is the father of the modern day scientific and intellectual racists (Appeal to Emotion), (Ad Hominem), Philippe Rushton. Deriving his resources from the pro-Nazi racist (Genetic Fallacy) research program, the Pioneer Fund, Rushton has carried the tradition of writing countless Nazi-style (Guilt By Association) racist

Surely this is a very profound reasoning, coming from this brilliant man.
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Blacks, according to Rushton, have larger genitals, making them more promiscuous, and smaller brains, making them less intelligent than whites and Asians. Using 60 different measures, Rushton ranks the races along an evolutionary scale with blacks at the bottom and Asians at the top

Wow, I am most impressed with this study, now I feel enlightened.

[Darorinag]

Is there any thread in which you don't bring up White supremacy?

Care to cite the website from which you got what you pasted?
Or wait, let me do it for you:

http://www.newnation.org/Archives/PhilippeRushton.html

Author
J. Philippe Rushton is a professor of psychology at the University of Western Ontario,
London, Ontario, Canada. Rushton holds two doctorates from the University of London (Ph.D.
and D.Sc) and is a Fellow of the John Simon Guggenheim Foundation, the American Association
for the Advancement of Science, and the American, British, and Canadian Psychological
Associations. He is also a member of the Behavior Genetics Association, the Human Behavior
and Evolution Society, and the Society for Neuroscience. Rushton has published six books and
nearly 200 articles. In 1992 the Institute for Scientific Information ranked him the 22nd most
published psychologist and the 11th most cited. Professor Rushton is listed in Who’s Who in
Science and Technology, Who’s Who in International Authors, and Who’s Who in Canada.

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Acclaim for J. Philippe Rushton’s
Race, Evolution, and Behavior

“(An) incendiary thesis....that separate races of human beings evolved different reproductive strategies to cope with
different environments and that these strategies led to physical differences in brain size and hence in intelligence.
Human beings who evolved in the warm but highly unpredictable environment of Africa adopted a strategy of high
reproduction, while human beings who migrated to the hostile cold of Europe and northern Asia took to producing
fewer children but nurturing them more carefully.”
---Malcolm W. Browne, New York Times Book Review

“Rushton is a serious scholar who has assembled serious data. Consider just one example: brain size. The empirical
reality, verified by numerous modern studies, including several based on magnetic resonance imaging, is that a
significant and substantial relationship does exist between brain size and measured intelligence after body size is
taken into account and that the races do have different distributions of brain size.”
---Charles Murray, Afterword to The Bell Curve

“Describes hundreds of studies worldwide that show a consistent pattern of human racial differences in such
characteristics as intelligence, brain size, genital size, strength of sex drive, reproductive potency, industriousness,
sociability, and rule following. On each of these variables, the groups are aligned in the order: Orientals, Caucasians,
Blacks.”
---Mark Snyderman, National Review

“Rushton’s Race, Evolution, and Behavior...is an attempt to understand [race] differences in terms of life-history
evolution....Perhaps there ultimately will be some serious contribution from the traditional smoke-and-mirrors social
science treatment of IQ, but for now Rushton’s framework is essentially the only game in town.”
---Henry Harpending, Evolutionary Anthropology

.“This brilliant book is the most impressive theory-based study...of the psychological and behavioral differences
between the major racial groups that I have encountered in the world literature on this subject.”
---Arthur R. Jensen, University of California, Berkeley

“The only acceptable explanation of race differences in behavior allowed in public discourse is an entirely
environmental one...Professor Rushton deserves our gratitude for having the courage to declare that ‘this emperor
has no clothes,’ and that a more satisfactory explanation must be sought.”
---Thomas J. Bouchard, Jr., University of Minnesota

“The remarkable resistance to racial science in our times has led to comparisons with the inquisition of Rome, active
during the Renaissance.... Astronomy and the physical sciences had their Copernicus, Kepler, and Galileo a few
centuries ago; society and the welfare of humanity is the better for it today. In a directly analogous fashion,
psychology and the social sciences today have their Darwin, Galton, and Rushton.”
---Glayde Whitney, Contemporary Psychology

“The data are startling to the uninitiated....Race, Evolution, and Behavior confronts us as few books have with the
dilemmas wrought in a democratic society by individual and group differences in key human traits.”
---Linda Gottfredson, Politics and the Life Sciences

“Professor Rushton is widely known and respected for the unusual combination of rigour and originality in his
work....Few concerned with understanding the problems associated with race can afford to disregard this storehouse
of well-integrated information which gives rise to a remarkable synthesis.”
---Hans J. Eysenck, University of London

“Should, if there is any justice, receive a Nobel Prize.”
---Richard Lynn, Spectator.

[Fadix]

Originally posted by Darorinag Fadix, for starters:

RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective

Professor J. Philippe Rushton
University of Western Ontario

ISBN: 0-9656836-2-1

What does it say? Nothing...

Cortical neurons/cranial capacity

blacks = 10.41
whites = 10.14

Difference is about 2.6% (near the error margin)

It is not only the size of the brain that is important, but the distance between neurons, this is why the numbers of neurons alone should not be measured but as well the density of the brain which is higher among blacks which compensate the lower cortical neurons level.

The rest is just bogus, IQ tests here have nothing to do with "race" but rather environment.... blacks and white do not have the same opportunities, chance in life, most black people have to fight for basic things such as food, water etc... and when they emigrate in Western countries they have difficulties adaptating because of their prior life experiences, there is many, many, many factors...

In any scientific statistical analysis in order to measure and compare two things... both must be measured in the same conditions... if they are not, you can not use those datas in order to draw a conclusion.

[Darorinag]

Btw, those fallacies refer to the initial criticism of Philippe Rushton...

This is the father of the modern day scientific and intellectual racists (Appeal to Emotion), (Ad Hominem), Philippe Rushton. Deriving his resources from the pro-Nazi racist (Genetic Fallacy) research program, the Pioneer Fund, Rushton has carried the tradition of writing countless Nazi-style (Guilt By Association) racist

What are you trying to "prove" here?

[anileve]

Originally posted by Darorinag Is there any thread in which you don't bring up White supremacy?

Care to cite the website from which you got what you pasted?
Or wait, let me do it for you:

http://www.newnation.org/Archives/PhilippeRushton.html

---Richard Lynn, Spectator.

Thanks for the acclaimed praises from a collection of some minor individuals, that still doesn't change the fact that the guy's material thrives on Nazi ideology and he is what you would call a racist, you know something that you are Dan.

Most of the material you post mainly come from Nazi sources, they are never anything besides that. That gives all of your opinions a foul smell and belongs in Anons toilet etiquette thread. Your views lose their credibility because they are extremely subjective, bias and complete reproductions of other peoples thoughts, nothing original there.

And that particular piece about the study of male genitalia speaks for itself. Someone who studies measurements of genitals to make a valid point is not even worth being taken seriously. Though you may disagree, because perhaps you do believe that your genitals are smaller than those of blacks, perhaps we got to the real root of your hate.

[anileve]

Originally posted by Fadix What does it say? Nothing...
In any scientific statistical analysis in order to measure and compare two things... both must be measured in the same conditions... if they are not, you can not use those datas in order to draw a conclusion.

Percisely! Rule of science and statistics, of course for those who understand not those who pretend to.

[Darorinag]

blacks and white do not have the same opportunities, chance in life, most black people have to fight for basic things such as food, water etc... and when they emigrate in Western countries they have difficulties adaptating because of their prior life experiences, there is many, many, many factors...

The usual arguments.

What then explains the fact that most blacks who have been in USA for generations still lag behind whites in school? So are you saying that a kid in Armenia who has been pitch-poor all his life is a fake chess-champion?

Also, if you didn't notice, Rushton is talking about race in relation to evolution.

IQ tests here have nothing to do with "race" but rather environment....

Can you prove that?

In any scientific statistical analysis in order to measure and compare two things... both must be measured in the same conditions... if they are not, you can not use those datas in order to draw a conclusion.

We are talking about evolution here!!!! We are talking about how certain races evolved. That environmental factors were different in no way means that there is no difference between the races! I am not claiming that environment had no role to play in those differences. I am simply claiming that there ARE differences.

Also, what explains the fact that Africans came to such poor circumstances?

[anileve]

Originally posted by Darorinag The usual arguments.

Can you prove that?

Can you prove anything that you claim? I'd like to see some of your studies and experiments or your thesis on this subject matter. Perhaps your Nazi mentors can co-sign your high school Nazi project for validity?