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  • #21
    The man who thinks an upright walking terrestrial creature having embyronic gills and a tail (despite the fact that neither is ever used) means nothing is criticizing skepticism?

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    • #22
      Come on, man. All I'm asking for is some intellectual honesty here, a little bit of integrity. I could care less what you believe, but at least hold all hypotheses to the same standard.

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      • #23
        You seem to be constantly whining about this "gill" issue, when not even the most evolutionists cling to it. The fact that a human embryo in its early stages goes through "fish stages" of "gills", a "tail", means nothing. So what? We learned this in middle school. The question is, does it mean anything of significance? During fetal development there are certain folds not entirely gills in the truest sense of the word, that resemble a fish embryo but as we progress and develop it stops. In fish it develops into gills, in humans into the glands and structures of the ear, neck, etc. If there would be any truth in this assertion that we evolved and are related to fish the gills would evolve into lungs. As far as the "tail" it is a purely regular thing, the coccyx, or 'tail bone" which is an important fully human feature. Nothing about the human embryo suggests to me that it is not unque to humans. Get over it. While we're on integrity, if you truly wanted to uphold integrity you wouldn't have dragged this issue in the evolution thread, instead of ruining a perfectly good and different thread.

        I have already stated everything is based on belief, based on our consciousness. Reality is determined by our consciousness. So with that said, this thread is about intuition and all things that flow from it. If you want to whine about evolution, go to the proper thread if you have nothing to contribute in this thread, which seems to be the case.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #24
          My intuition tells me you're wrong. My consciousness has determined it.

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          • #25
            By the way, pharyngeal gill slits are a defining characteristic of the phylum chordata, to which both humans and fishes belong. Only in chrondrichtyes and osteoichtyes are the gills used for breathing. In other classes, they are used for feeding. In mammals, they are vestigial and exist only in the embryonic stage.

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            • #26
              By the way, remove this crap to the proper thread.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #27
                Then address the reason I actually brought it up. Why is your evidential standard lower for your own pet hypotheses than for those you oppose?

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                • #28
                  Lower? I won't answer that because it does not deal with the thread, nor does your question make sense, which you will contend otherwise. There is no "standard" about this. You cannot "empirically" "prove" intuition. Now leave the thread since youre of no use here, as usual. Stick to threads which deal with mechanical empirical explanations of the world. This thread is for those already accepting the concept of intuition or familiar. Those whining about mechanistic explanations make another thread.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #29
                    People who use intuition consisently being right wouldn't constitute empirical evidence? This isn't the intution forum. Skeptics are just are welcome as believers. In fact, if you had any integrity whatsoever, you would want skeptics.

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                    • #30
                      Skepticism is not the same as whining about evolution in a thread dealing with intuition. With that said, this is basically where I draw the line with you and Seapahn or any other person who buys into your explanations of reality. You adhere to the age old concept of treating man as a biological chemical entity, whereas I see him as a spiritual being. Therefore, I find it pointless to even discuss this with you since you have no idea where I am coming from nor where I am bringing this discussion from, nor where it is intended to go or how to be received, or how it might serve someone. If you want to contend that this has no evidence, you're right, you can't "map it" or put it in a nice algebraic equation, so stop asking stupid questions about "pet theories".
                      Achkerov kute.

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