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  • Einstein

    Originally posted by winoman
    So I assume we must strip Einstein of any scientific recognition regarding his silly Theory of Relativity - it seemingly fails all of your criteria for science - or certainly did at the time it was proposed (and accepted as legitimate scientific theory)....and to think Evolution has had thousands of times the observable and testable results ...(all passed BTW)...sorry charlie...time to scamper back into your dark little tunnel and let truely educated people discuss things. silly pathetic fool

    Well, Einstein was a fraud. Bad example.

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    Originally posted by Stark Evade
    Well, Einstein was a fraud. Bad example.
    I'll just pretend you didn't say that - OK....

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    • #3
      If you pretend, you'll deprive yourself of truth. Very unscientific of you. Einstein was the biggest plagiarist in the history of science and there are no two ways about it. The prinicples he stands for are great, but he just stands for them. They're not his. Not the idea of four dimensions, not E=MC^2, not the bending of light by gravity, and, among still other ideas, not relativity either.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stark Evade
        If you pretend, you'll deprive yourself of truth. Very unscientific of you. Einstein was the biggest plagiarist in the history of science and there are no two ways about it. The prinicples he stands for are great, but he just stands for them. They're not his. Not the idea of four dimensions, not E=MC^2, not the bending of light by gravity, and, among still other ideas, not relativity either.
        Apparently we agree on something.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #5
          Anon, is there anything anyone can ever say to change your mind about evolution?
          Stark, is there anything anyone can ever say to change your mind about Einstein?

          Not even having heard the answers to those questions, I'd go as fas as to say continuing these "discussions" is pointless.


          "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." --Albert Einstein
          Last edited by Sip; 10-03-2005, 07:24 PM.
          this post = teh win.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sip
            Stark, is there anything anyone can ever say to change your mind about Einstein?
            As expected, no. There is no defense.

            "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." --Albert Einstein
            That right there is the meaning of Einstein. But it's not the quote itself; it's the fact that you are quoting it. Einstein was a marketting tool. A pop star. An image. A poster. Since he didn't have to spend much time doing science he spent it coming up with stupid little quotes to be remembered by. He is the most quoted scientist. But one should not be remembered as a great scientist because of cute, meaningless quotes. (And sometimes those are plagiaristic too: "Never stop asking questions." Thanks, punk, for that Socratic lesson.) There is absolutely nothing special about him or his book of a 1001 queefy quotes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Anonymouse
              Apparently you don't understand the pillar of science - the scientific method.

              That was hilarious!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stark Evade
                As expected, no. There is no defense.



                That right there is the meaning of Einstein. But it's not the quote itself; it's the fact that you are quoting it. Einstein was a marketting tool. A pop star. An image. A poster. Since he didn't have to spend much time doing science he spent it coming up with stupid little quotes to be remembered by. He is the most quoted scientist. But one should not be remembered as a great scientist because of cute, meaningless quotes. (And sometimes those are plagiaristic too: "Never stop asking questions." Thanks, punk, for that Socratic lesson.) There is absolutely nothing special about him or his book of a 1001 queefy quotes.
                OK fine - I won't argue per se - understand your point - though don't agree - I think he was obvioulsy brilliant with keen insight - - and it is a fallacy to expect someone to be entirely original - particularly when it comes to Science - that is a rarity indeed - but anyway - lets celebrate Richard Feynman then - perhaps we can agree on him then eh?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by winoman
                  OK fine - I won't argue per se - understand your point - though don't agree - I think he was obvioulsy brilliant with keen insight - - and it is a fallacy to expect someone to be entirely original - particularly when it comes to Science - that is a rarity indeed - but anyway - lets celebrate Richard Feynman then - perhaps we can agree on him then eh?
                  Scientists always contribute to or develope previous work. But Einstein has usurped credit from tens of scientists. He actually played small roles in all of the principles he is associated with. There are so many other names that people should be using and are not because of that fool.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Stark Evade
                    Scientists always contribute to or develope previous work. But Einstein has usurped credit from tens of scientists. He actually played small roles in all of the principles he is associated with. There are so many other names that people should be using and are not because of that fool.
                    Yeah I understand - how many physicists and mathmaticians are household names though anyway - within the community folks like Hans Bethe and whoever else you might be refering to are well known - and as far as I know their contributions are correctly associated. Sure E gets the credit for relativity when several others were thinking and publishing along similar lines - but he did sort of bring it together and explain it succinctly...and publish...the latter part is very important...and we do attribute much concerning nuclear technology that in fact was developed by others with Einstein having only a tangental theoretical input - oh well - so it goes - but what do I know anyway - I am just a layman...so what are you some kind of egghead physicist or something? I thought you were some kind of scary clown?

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