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  • #41
    Actually, this discussion is still open, if anyone wants to join in with people who actually know something about physics and aren't getting their information from popular expose books.

    Henri Poincaré: The Real Discoverer of Special Relativity
    http://physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=84076
    Why isn't the mathematician Henri Poincaré acknowledged as the true discoverer of special relativity? http://www-cosmosaf.iap.fr/Poincare-RR3A.htm http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0408077

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Siamanto
      Just curious, what made you think that I did not get your message and how my comment suggested that I did get it i.e. your message?
      With all due respect, you're a bit paranoid or...
      With all due respect, you can't put together a sentence.

      Originally posted by Siamanto
      LOL Aren't you the one who used the word "genius" first? You're a bit funny!
      I don't know was I? Remember this thread actually started from the evolution thread so I don't know ... I'm pretty sure I didn't.

      Originally posted by Siamanto
      Later, it has been used by Anonymouse, in the post preceding the one where I first asked for a definition.
      Thanks for the history lesson ... I'm sure everyone has used the word genius at least once!

      Originally posted by Siamanto
      It was hard to see it with such clarity in the overconfidence of your, quite disdainous, statements. Was it a lack of Intellectual Integrity?
      No it was Stark calling me an idiot twice in one post with four of the most useless points I've ever seen. Disdanious?? I think you meant disdainfulness as that actually IS a word unlike disdanious.

      Originally posted by Siamanto
      LOL Of course it does!
      Back to your overconfident self?
      Better to be over than under...

      Originally posted by Siamanto
      PS. Good Night!
      Goodnight to you as well Siamanto! Have a good tomorrow as well ... just to one up ya!

      Isn't taking apart posts just like the most totally played out bulletin board rebuttal style ever? I just did it merely to make fun of this wack style of response. I mean my post that you were quoting was how many post above your own? Just say what you're going to say I'm sure we're all smart enough to understand what you're referring to. Eww maybe I'm not

      Just to keep it correct ... Einstein rules. Go team Einstein!

      Check out the Evolution thread as I found out that it, evolution, is indeed factual (99.99999% for all you philosophers) it's the mechanisms, or how evolution actually occurs that is theoretical. Anyway it's a cool article check it out ... this ends my contribution to both threads

      Flame away ... you know the dealie "I have asbestos undies blah blah blah built in fire extinguishers blah blah blah" more played out bulletin board stuff.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Lamb Boy

        Isn't taking apart posts just like the most totally played out bulletin board rebuttal style ever? I just did it merely to make fun of this wack style of response.
        Apparently, this "wack style of response" seemed to have created a stir in you since you responded in quite a lengthy fashion not conveying much anyway.

        Goodnight kind sage.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #44
          Many people it seems to me (and I don't mean only in this forum) fail to realize that at such levels of greatness, it is almost always more difficult to plagiarise (and do it well) as opposed to be original.

          Also, as time has gone on, it is more and more the case that VERY rarely a single individual makes leaps and bounds in terms of break throughs ... especially not in theoretical domains. In applied sciences, sure. Someone can hit on something BIG that somehow "works" (either by design, by accident, or both). But in the theoretical realms, things come and go in waves and attributing huge things to single individuals (as much as it is in our nature to do so), doesn't really work.
          Last edited by Sip; 10-05-2005, 09:18 PM.
          this post = teh win.

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          • #45
            Lamb boy (most recently) and others - I had posted a reminder about not insulting each other. Which it seems like no one read.

            You didn't answer my question, so you must be an idiot! What's up with that? Can't we just point out flaws in reasoning or point to an unanswered question without calling each other names?

            Once again, stop with the name calling. You can "defeat" each other with the information you post, not by name calling. Please don't do it again.
            [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
            -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Lamb Boy
              As far as Einstein goes here are some interesting articles as well...

              Was Einstein a plagiarist?

              The culture of Einstein
              Wonderful. Addressing different people from the ones I mentioned. Are you reading anything?

              Stark ... only idiots are incapable of answering questions. I have posed two questions to you and you haven't answered either. The second question I really thought you'd be able to answer but now I suppose you either can't or won't. It seems you live up to your name that's for sure.

              Stark = Instant expert ... add water.
              You didn't ask me anything! How ridiculous can you get!? Is this what you're talking about? Because I didn't see anything else.

              And what was the point of posting the two Darwin links? Both of them illustrate that Darwin didn't plagiarize, credited direct sources and had rightful claim to the concepts as they are now perceived -- Darwinism. Plagiarizing is when one makes no referrence to the research one's conclusions are directly dependant upon. I accept that Hilbert and Einstein had formulated GTR independantly. Unfortunately, Einstein is still the associated name except for the Einstein-Hilbert action which should only be called the Hilbert action because he came up with it. And only his name is commonly associated with STR which is unfair and misleading because so much work was done before him, including all of the math involved. And the energy/mass/lightspeed forumla... well so often the birth of that formula is considered to be Einstein's 1905 paper because he didn't say that he was explaining De Pretto's formula. Many have made immense contributions to science yet he is held up to the light as the symbol of brilliance. Realistically, I don't think he was stupid. But when it comes to scientists, I also don't think he's as special as he's made out to be either.
              Last edited by Stark Evade; 10-06-2005, 12:41 PM.

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              • #47
                If Einstein were here, he would have answered all your questions.
                this post = teh win.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Sip
                  If Einstein were here, he would have answered all your questions.
                  My question would be "Einstein, why are you such a twit?"

                  I bet he couldn't answer that!
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Anonymouse
                    My question would be "Einstein, why are you such a twit?"

                    I bet he couldn't answer that!


                    "It is all relative... or so Poincare says."

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Stark Evade

                      "It is all relative... or so Poincare says."

                      "Charlatan."
                      Achkerov kute.

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