Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

[One-Way]

^ I'm not even gonna ask. Turkish people, I swear. Bunch of idiots.

[Anonymouse]

Yeah we should just kill all the catholics - they don't belong...and boot out all the "darkies" from anywhere south of France...seig heil!

It sounds like your emotions are controlling you again. Better pop the Vicodin to calm you down old man.

[AmerikanTurk]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

My view is that those Americans who count on both hands all the countries from which they believe their ancestors came, are the closest thing to owning "American ethnicity". It could be argued that Americans whose roots in this country reach back to the 18th century, have the most compelling claim to such a distinction. Here are some more of my views on this subject:

Un-Turkish Ethnicity versus Turkish Nationality

http://americanturk.blogspot.com/2005/12/un-turkish-ethnicity-versus-turkish.html

[Anonymouse]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

My view is that those Americans who count on both hands all the countries from which they believe their ancestors came, are the closest thing to owning "American ethnicity". It could be argued that Americans whose roots in this country reach back to the 18th century, have the most compelling claim to such a distinction. Here are some more of my views on this subject:

Un-Turkish Ethnicity versus Turkish Nationality

http://americanturk.blogspot.com/200...s-turkish.html

Bear in mind the vast majority of those who call themselves white (Americans), are of Anglo and Germanic extraction.

[Lamb Boy]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

Here you go Virgil here is the thread where you can declare that being an American IS actually an ethnic or racial type ... since that's what you believe. I agree ...

[Virgil]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

Here you go Virgil here is the thread where you can declare that being an American IS actually an ethnic or racial type ... since that's what you believe. I agree ...

Once you become a ingredient in the "melting pot" you have accepted the "American Way", there is no debating this, whether it is considered a ethnicity or not, being American is a identity that is imposed people. Do you celebrate fourth of July? Yes, do you celebrate Thanksgiving? Yes, do you celebrate Christmas eve on the 25th? Probably do or you probably do what ridiculous Armenian-Americans do, they celebrate it on two days, but most likely they invite all their friends and family on the 25th and consider this the "real Christmas" since they would feel so "Un-American" if they were to tell Americans they celebrate it on the 6th.

Do you expose yourself to American media? You sure do, what do they teach you? "New American values" (i.e. be a good consumer so corporations can incrase their bottom line), multiculturalism and conformity (i.e. pick a costume, are you a "wigger"? A "punk"? A "clubber"? A "tech guy"? A "gamer"? A "racer"? You have to pick a costume, you can not be yourself, you have to conform because when you conform you lose your ties to your identity, you become a hand job of the state, this happend to European Americans and it is happening to Armenian Americans as well), the state is not happy until everyone has been homoginized.

And being part of the proud American "homoginized" tradition was great, there was some purity in being American, immigrating here, seeing Ellis Island, living the American dream, but the American dream somewhere in the last 50 years was hijacked by corporations and special interest groups, now, we work ourselves to death only to buy products, our fullfillment stems from our need to buy and consume. We have to be the "worlds consumers" this is the "New American", in the process alienating ourselves from our loved ones, our traditions, and our personal happiness. We work and work, pay taxes and finally the big reward is given to states like Israel, Turkey, and other foreign governments so that they can oppress others in the name of "foreign policy" instead of the nine to five worker that has no health insurance and can not save enough money to afford a sold education for his children. God, idenity, ethnicity, race, and values have been replaced with gift cards and credit cards, we are now a godless and are confronted with a identity crisis.

So, Lambboy, I don't recall them ever talking about "Chagh Andranik", but I do recall them talking about "George Washington", so, yes, we are stuck in this sham existence, they get you in the pot by saying things like you can "melt in the pot", but "melting in the pot" means that you are giving up your identity to people that are xenophobic, make no mistake, asking someone to homoginize themselves in the pot is not fostering diversity because being "diverse" means you are different, but this becomes a paradox because how are you different if you are melting in a pot? Hmm...maybe I will ask you to answer that question for yourself. Even if you opt to "melt in the pot" you will first have to be firewood that heats the pot.

Contrary to the popular myth, America is not a "nation of immigrants", and is instead a settler nation, much like Canada, and Australia in which the original settlers established the original and core culture that still pervades and stands. Take a look at the English language for example.

This is true, at the a core a American is a pilgram.

yes and no. We have become a global species - and one day will perhaps be an interstellar species...the meaning of being x or y group will likely only be a footnote in the future. It is the likely way of things (unless we somehow manage to plunge into a rhetrograde dark ages in the meantime). Obviously we loose much with the diminishing of ethnic/cultural distinctiveness - and as Armenians we understand the value of (uniquely) who we are...however in time as humans continue to integrate worldwide and join the dominant (European/Western based) culure (which obviously is evolving [much to the fears of the Aryan racists [{rodents and such} amongst us...] - particularly considering demographics)...these distinctions/differentiation will become much less an issue

I don't think anyone has become a "global species", globalization will fail once humanity understands that resources are finite. And god forbid we do become this "global species", we will have commited one of the worst act of genocides in the history of "mankind". It is easier said then done, "these distinctions/differentiation" will always be a issue. It is precisely because there exists no more "distinction" in some parts of the United States that has marginalized a individual and has turned them into a walking corpse. No individual with a distinct identity will just lay down and die, they will fight and resist globalization, people at the heart love themselves and want to stay different. They will always opt ot speak a different language, partake in different traditions, and congregate amongst people with similar values and identity. A solution must exist that does not force people to change and the first step understanding this fundimental fact, that people don't want to change, will end all wars and bring back morals and realism to politics, foreign policy, and "mankind". Then truly mankind will be a "global species", one that respect each others values and beliefs.

[Alexzan]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

yes yes yes

I like this guy
Hes f'n funny.

[Mos]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

no, never it will always be a melting pot of all the races in the world. the most "purest" Americans are the hillbillys down south but who wants to be associated with them

[Armenian]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

Basing my perception on world history: many modern nations have traveled the path the United States is on today - including we Armenians. Before we took our final form, the Armenian as we know it today, we were a conglomeration (federation) of nations and tribes under the banner of Urartu for several hundred years. The same national evolution applies to Russians, the British, the Germans, the Chinese, the Persians, etc. So, one day in future, there will be an ethnicity known as the "American" nation. Genetically, the "American" nation will be a mix of Europeans, Africans, Hispanics, Asians. Most probably the culture of the "American" will be derived from the aforementioned ethnic mix as well as a heavy influence from Hollywood and market consumerism. And the language, American, will somewhat distance itself from English although not as much as it would have had in ancient times due to a centralized educational system. Most probably the "American" language will become a distinct dialect of English.

All this of course if the United States, as we know it, survives the ravages of the special interests that are currently leading this once great nation to oblivion.

Nonetheless, in my opinion, the future "ethnic American" will most probably look something like this:

[Virgil]

Re: Will being American ever be considered an ethnicity?

Nonetheless, in my opinion, the future "ethnic American" will most probably look something like this:

WOW, Demqa or Tepha!