War in The Middle East

[Anonymouse]

Re: War in The Middle East

Hezbollah's armed wing uses military uniforms does it not?

Mostly but not all the time.

[D3ADSY]

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One thing that no one has mentioned is the environmental devastation caused by the IAF bombing of fuel tanks/depots, the beaches look like a tanker has sunk offshore!

[D3ADSY]

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Even if it is, so what? It doesn't even need to do that, since modern insurgencies and fourth generation warfare, terrorists, guerrillas and insurgents are already not from State organized armies but rather from the rank and file of the ordinary people. Therefore, regardless of whether they make a conscious effort or not to blend in, they are part of that and thus make it harder for state armies to identify them and part of this problem is seen both by America and Israel in their respective war zones.

Hezbollah's armed wing uses military uniforms does it not?

[Anonymouse]

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"hezbollah is stationing around civilians, SO THAT THE ISRAELIS WILL ATTACK THEM AND CAUSE CIVILIAN DEATH, it makes israel look bad and helps hezbollah's cause."

I can't find any info on this, but is this true?

Even if it is, so what? It doesn't even need to do that, since modern insurgencies and fourth generation warfare, terrorists, guerrillas and insurgents are already not from State organized armies but rather from the rank and file of the ordinary people. Therefore, regardless of whether they make a conscious effort or not to blend in, they are part of that and thus make it harder for state armies to identify them and part of this problem is seen both by America and Israel in their respective war zones.

[Anonymouse]

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See I don't view Israel's policies and in fact Zionism itself as religous fundamentalism. After all xxxs don't dream of converting the whole world to Judaism. In fact they unlike Christians or Muslems are not focused without, they are focused within. They couldn't care less what we do, as long as we don't stand in their way. If anyone does, then I suppose the lax views of gentiles' rights and lives, as preached in Judaism, help in carving a path where death and suffering of said gentiles is easily accepted. An example of this is Passover, where death and destruction of Egyptians are even celebrated, as Gods punishment to less preferred creatures.

Religious fundamentalism, Zionism, political idealism, etc., call it what you will. Names are irrelevant here. You are correct in that the points of Judaism are focused inward not outward, as with Christianity and Islam, and J[e]wish mysticism is really indicative of this.

But Zionism and what's been Israel's decades old campaign of ethnic cleansing stems more from a maniacal need to secure land, given their history of being the planet's whipping boy. In fact many of the founders of Zionism were total secularists and many trully observant xxxs have commented that xxxs were kicked out of Israel and have yet to recieve God's forgiveness and in turn the right to Israel, meaning that in their eyes the creation of Israel now is not sanctioned religously.

That is very correct. In fact, I have stated before that Zionism is very close to Nazism in terms of its planks. What is so different?

Amazingly, it is fundamentalist Christians who are focused without, wait impatiantly for Israel to form and wars to start so Jesus Christ can come back and ...

Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, etc., and other nutbags.

[Anonymouse]

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i think j-e-w-s, in general, have a very good idea about genocide.

Is that why the Israeli government is allied with Turkey and denies the Armenian Genocide?

In any event, back to the point, what has precipitated this conflict is Israel's lust for war and its arrogance in trying to resolve a conflict and has now cornered itself into a trap.

[OMG]

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After all xxxs don't dream of converting the whole world to Judaism.

convert? we all are made from love. there is nothing to convert to.

But Zionism and what's been Israel's decades old campaign of ethnic cleansing stems more from a maniacal need to secure land,

politics, not religion or god.

Amazingly, it is fundamentalist Christians who are focused without, wait impatiantly for Israel to form and wars to start so Jesus Christ can come back and ...

can?

[karoaper]

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"hezbollah is stationing around civilians, SO THAT THE ISRAELIS WILL ATTACK THEM AND CAUSE CIVILIAN DEATH, it makes israel look bad and helps hezbollah's cause."

I can't find any info on this, but is this true?

I cannot imagine Hizbollah would fire rockets next to a building where their mothers and children are staying. Noone is that crazy. I mean making Israel look bad would be good for them, but I cannot imagine at the cost of a) their people's lives and b) their people potentially partly blaming them.

[Fedayeen]

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"hezbollah is stationing around civilians, SO THAT THE ISRAELIS WILL ATTACK THEM AND CAUSE CIVILIAN DEATH, it makes israel look bad and helps hezbollah's cause."

I can't find any info on this, but is this true?

[karoaper]

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Actually, it's well documented that there was J[e]wish involvement in the Genocide, and that orthodox J[e]ws consider non-J[e]ws, including Armenians, nothing more than cattle. However, that is not the point, the point is consistency in our views towards religious fundamentalism.

See I don't view Israel's policies and in fact Zionism itself as religous fundamentalism. After all xxxs don't dream of converting the whole world to Judaism. In fact they unlike Christians or Muslems are not focused without, they are focused within. They couldn't care less what we do, as long as we don't stand in their way. If anyone does, then I suppose the lax views of gentiles' rights and lives, as preached in Judaism, help in carving a path where death and suffering of said gentiles is easily accepted. An example of this is Passover, where death and destruction of Egyptians are even celebrated, as Gods punishment to less preferred creatures.

But Zionism and what's been Israel's decades old campaign of ethnic cleansing stems more from a maniacal need to secure land, given their history of being the planet's whipping boy. In fact many of the founders of Zionism were total secularists and many trully observant xxxs have commented that xxxs were kicked out of Israel and have yet to recieve God's forgiveness and in turn the right to Israel, meaning that in their eyes the creation of Israel now is not sanctioned religously.

Amazingly, it is fundamentalist Christians who are focused without, wait impatiantly for Israel to form and wars to start so Jesus Christ can come back and ...