I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Go around and ask a few non-wealthy people whether these things are important to them. It's rather arrogant of you to decide for others what rights are valuable to them (e.g. being able to adopt, not losing their housing if their partner dies, being able to see them in the hospital, being able to recover in tort actions, etc).

African Americans are the only smart ones out of the bunch that don't fall into that marriage B.S. They don't put themselves into the law system. Most often things are taken away from them due to laws.

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Poor people live off welfare. Most of those things listed don't apply to them..

Seems to me the majority of things listed apply more to poor people Joint parenting? joint adoption? joint foster care? joint insurance policies? divorce protections? immigration and residency stuff? joint leases? annuities? pension plans? social security? Medicare? excpetions on property tax increases if one dies? verteran benefits? decision making power if one is incapacitated? crime victim recovery? domestic violence protection? You don't think the poor people need these?

Did you even read any of them or did you sort of guess again without all these "reading" stuff ...

So which out of that list do you think doesn't apply to poor people?

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Seems to me the majority of things listed apply more to poor people Joint parenting? joint adoption? joint foster care? joint insurance policies? divorce protections? immigration and residency stuff? joint leases? annuities? pension plans? social security? Medicare? excpetions on property tax increases if one dies? verteran benefits? decision making power if one is incapacitated? crime victim recovery? domestic violence protection? You don't think the poor people need these?

Did you even read any of them or did you sort of guess again without all these "reading" stuff ...

So which out of that list do you think doesn't apply to poor people?

All the ones that require a job.... poor people rent dumps or are given housing by the government... they legally don't have anything. Pension plans? Hell, I don't even get a pension plan, lol.

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

All the ones that require a job.... poor people rent dumps or are given housing by the government... they legally don't have anything. Pension plans? Hell, I don't even get a pension plan, lol.

I guess this answers Sip's question.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

So which out of that list do you think doesn't apply to poor people?

All the ones that require a job.... poor people rent dumps or are given housing by the government... they legally don't have anything. Pension plans? Hell, I don't even get a pension plan, lol.

I guess this answers Sip's question.

See in bold.

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

I think he answered it perfectly. 0 items from the list require a job

So I guess 0 out of a list of at least 21 things is a good enough fraction to conclude that it supports what Kanadahye is saying

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

.. and please, Siggie, before you bring your "science" into this, just take our word that normal people are perfectly happy with 0 out of 21 supporting their belief.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

I think he answered it perfectly. 0 items from the list require a job

So I guess 0 out of a list of at least 21 things is a good enough fraction to conclude that it supports what Kanadahye is saying

Or... you don't know the extent of poverty in America.

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Or almost everything on that list becomes more important the less money you have?

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Or almost everything on that list becomes more important the less money you have?

To receive social security benefits (after retirement) You would have to have had to work full time (40-50 hours) for about 10 years. That doesn't apply to many Americans who live below the poverty line. Most of these social nets listed are for working class people. What blows my mind in America is seeing 40 or 50 year old people making sandwiches at subway. The system of slavery and poverty is so entrenched into the fabric of America it's hard to believe that people are actually worried about gay marriage.