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  • #41
    Originally posted by Anonymouse
    On the contrary there are many examples of many societies that were multiracial and cultural, which allowed for mixing, that eventually changed and fell because the people who created that culture were altered. Stop appealing to your own ignorance of what things 'ought' to be.
    Here is the flaw in this thought:

    1) Society that is dependant entirely on culture may always be susceptible to collapse regardless of mixing.

    2) There may, very likely, be much stronger contributory factors that led to the fall of a society that corresponded to whatever mixing allegedly occurred.

    3) The idea of a collapse in a society is a vague concept in this context.

    4) Armenians are part of many societies.

    5) Stop resorting to attributing disagreement with ignorance, you ignorant puke sack.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by dusken
      Here is the flaw in this thought:

      1) Society that is dependant entirely on culture may always be susceptible to collapse regardless of mixing.

      2) There may, very likely, be much stronger contributory factors that led to the fall of a society that corresponded to whatever mixing allegedly occurred.

      3) The idea of a collapse in a society is a vague concept in this context.

      4) Armenians are part of many societies.

      5) Stop resorting to attributing disagreement with ignorance, you ignorant puke sack.
      Societies that were racially homogenous or with a clear majority have collapsed many times such as such as Germany, or Japan, or Russia, or England, but have all recoevered. Why is it that such societies are still active and progress and have done so for centuries, and why have societies like Rome, or Greece, faded into oblivion. The answer is because cultures are specific to the people that create them, reflecting the potential of that given people. This is not a pc view, although historical developmental theories can support no other point.

      It is often quaint to blame collapses on politics, economics or other trivial issues, but these societies all go through it, yet some rise again and continue to produce active cultures, while others disappear and become remembered only in books and museums.

      I will say this much. There isa concerted and long-term attack against the civilizations of whites, Armenians included and the attack is not confined to the political, social and cultural institutions that characterize the civilization but extends also to the race and continues today. The war against white civilizations sometimes (indeed often) invokes liberal ideals as its justification and as its goal, but the likely reality is that the victory of the racial revolution will end merely in the domination or destruction of the white peoples and its civilization by the non-white peoples, if only for demographic reasons due to non-white immigration and the decline of white birth rates. When we look at mixed societies such as Central or South America, or North Africa, we see shytholes. When you look at homogenous societies you see active vibrant cultures. Japan is certainly not drooling over the idea of multiculturalism and multiracialism.

      In Japan there is a virtual absence of crime. Anyone can walk anywhere in Japan at any time. Another result of homogeneity and national solidarity is the relative absence of social conflict. Since all Japanese come from the same stock, receive much the same education, and absorb the same traditions, they have the same expectations of each other.There are no hate laws, discrimination law suits, quotas, affirmitive actions, etc. This is reflected in how after World War II, the mixed race babies of Japanese and black servicemen were bundled up and shipped to Brazil. How "racist" of them indeed.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Anonymouse
        They are diluted hybrids. Can anyone seriously call a mulatto "Armenian"? What I said earlier. You can be culture bearing, but not culture creating.
        Actually, except when they expressly point out that they are not 'full' Armenian, no one has ever guessed. So you're wrong again. They read and write Armenian and know the history and culture and consider themselves to be 100% Armenian. So much so that one of them has even published a book of Armenian poetry. What did you say about culture creating again?

        Originally posted by Tres Bien
        _ Just because both youre parents are armenian doesnt make you automatically armenian, you have to be raaised into knowing youre culture and get to be proud by youre identity. marrying someone who is "armenian"by name doesnt solve any perservational problems in the long run for armenians...

        it starts with armenian unity..
        This is why I said marrying someone who accepts and adopts being Armenian with open arms.
        The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ckBejug
          Actually, except when they expressly point out that they are not 'full' Armenian, no one has ever guessed. So you're wrong again. They read and write Armenian and know the history and culture and consider themselves to be 100% Armenian. So much so that one of them has even published a book of Armenian poetry. What did you say about culture creating again?
          If you want to justify mixing, just say you prefer mixing, but don't bring up silly reasons of how someone is "more Armenian" because they "adopt" the culture. What they consider themselves to be, has no bearing upon the society itself. There have always been exceptions to the rule, and mixing has always occured, but always in marginal forms. Only now is it changing, where it is becoming the rule gradually. If all Armenians started mixing with blacks and the next three generations continued mixing, what do you think will be the outcome? Such absurdities are never thought through all the way, so long as they satisfy some egalitarian ideal of 'tolerance' and "we are all the same" ideas.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #45


            Greece and Rome are the worst examples you could have given. If you think that Rome collapsed because Romans were starting interracial families, you are an idiot. And Greece has done an excellent job of maintaining its culture and their society is still around just fine. They just have not progressed as a people and that has to do with reminiscing about achievements as opposed to effecting achievements.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Anonymouse
              In Japan there is a virtual absence of crime. Anyone can walk anywhere in Japan at any time. Another result of homogeneity and national solidarity is the relative absence of social conflict. Since all Japanese come from the same stock, receive much the same education, and absorb the same traditions, they have the same expectations of each other.There are no hate laws, discrimination law suits, quotas, affirmitive actions, etc. This is reflected in how after World War II, the mixed race babies of Japanese and black servicemen were bundled up and shipped to Brazil. How "racist" of them indeed.
              Good one Mousey, give Japan as an example. Forget to mention that they also have one of the most flawless police forces out there and uhm, oh yeah, guns are illegal in Japan. Do I have to remind you that 99% of the population in Armenia is Armenians and they still can't keep from killing each other? Obviously your example of preserving ourselves as 100% Armenians to keep the crime level low is not a very scientifically well-grounded observation, is it?
              The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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              • #47
                It is absolutely hilarious how much some people care about this. Every single ethnic culture on the face of the planet can disappear tomorrow and I'll still be able to achieve every last goal I have.

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                • #48
                  Armenia was under Soviet rule, and for some reosen most of the countries that were under this union have had a high rate of mafias, and crime.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by dusken


                    Greece and Rome are the worst examples you could have given. If you think that Rome collapsed because Romans were starting interracial families, you are an idiot. And Greece has done an excellent job of maintaining its culture and their society is still around just fine. They just have not progressed as a people and that has to do with reminiscing about achievements as opposed to effecting achievements.
                    The classical civilizations of Greece and Rome are not the same as the ones you see today. The Roman Empire and the Greek Empire collapsed precisely because they extended and conquered other peoples, eventually mixing and changing that society therefore that civilization. If you do not know history you should not bother making silly statements. The fact that Egypt now calls itself "Egypt" does not mean they are the same as the Egyptians of classical times. In fact, studying the Roman Empire towards its latter days, you would see the strong similarities and parallels with the American Empire.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by loseyourname
                      It is absolutely hilarious how much some people care about this. Every single ethnic culture on the face of the planet can disappear tomorrow and I'll still be able to achieve every last goal I have.
                      This doesn't concern you. It's absolutely hilarious how much some people care about what they believe is 'bothering' other people.
                      Achkerov kute.

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