Virgin or Experienced?

[XxgoeyxX]

I'm proud of you Hyejinx. I'm glad you said that. If someone didnt agree with me I would just get annoyed then I think I have to change my ways because I might be wrong. When in fact I dont need too.

[garegin]

well its one thing to force peopel to follow your morality and another thing to advocate moral values.
i can be against, say, sex toys(this is just hyphothetical), but not force people by my values. its their private life and they make their own choices.

[gevo]

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That said, perhaps I can gain a few grace points by saying I'm completely against adultry and mostly against abortion.

But you believe in fornication??? I dont think i see a difference in the moral.. and even as far as to say there may be very little difference in the consequences..

[HyeJinx1984]

what does fornication, which just means sex between two people who aren't married, have ANYTHING to do with Adultry or Abortion?

[garegin]

to correctly understand the word fornication, you must gasp the concept of pornea . pornea is fornication, pre/extramatiral sex, prostitution, and many other ills. its this greek word from which armenians got the word pornik .
scholars still debate over what the word pornea means.

[HyeJinx1984]

Well then you used the word Fornication originally, not me. The fact of the matter is... actually I'm not even sure what the fact of the matter is anymore since this conversation keeps spiraling downwards into the land of "wtf?." Basically in the end.... I pick experienced

[Anonymouse]

You ask as if I condone those things or have ever participated in them at all. Look, I'm tired of every taking my xxxx and making it a big deal on this board. You guys don't like sexual freedom, I do. differing of opinions, end of story. I don't see why it's more complicated than that. Or maybe this is just that age old Armenian tradition of arguing for teh sake of arguing rathe rthan just peacefully exchanging ideas. I'm liberal, you're conservative. It's been interesting hearing your views on things an dI hope mine were of at least little interest to you. It's interesting to hear people talk about their views on things. That's all.

Why do you turn every discussion into a "age old Armenian tradition" of Armenians never getting along and "arguing for the sake of arguing". Stop whining about that so damn much. It's not about Armenians arguing at all, it's a friggin message board for string cheese' sake. It's just a silly old message board with alot of eccentric people and disagreement are natural. As far as you being liberal, most "liberals" are only liberal when it comes to sex, that's about as far as liberals go, the same applies to those people who argue for moral relativism. It always hovers on and around the subject of sex. I, on the other hand, consider myself a liberal in every endeavor other than sex. I'm not of the persuasion of "phucking around", however, I used to be. I believe in doing anything and everything with one person.

[Anonymouse]

I have a very simple definition for liberals and conservatives. Liberals like to tell us what we can do, conservatives tell us what we can't do. That's not shining a positive of negative on either one.. it's just the nature of those beasts. When it comes to sex I don't believe in telling people what NOT to do, where as conservaqtives like to sit and right rules about what is and isn't moral an dwhat is and isn't deviant. Have I ever participated in an orgy? NO, and I probably never will. Do I think people should have the right to have orgies? YES, who has the gaul to tell full grown single people what they can and can't do with THEIR bodies? It's an absurd idea. Sexual expression between two or more people is something anyone should have the right too, i happen not to engage in the more deviant stuff but if someone wants to be tied up in leather and have a girl squat over his mouth while urinating, god bless him... not for me, but I won't take that right from him nor will I make him out to be a monster for it (I may playfully make fun of him a bit though ).

That said, perhaps I can gain a few grace points by saying I'm completely against adultry and mostly against abortion.

You're blowing this way out of proportion newbie and you're painting so called 'conservatives' like me in a bad light. I suggest you desist in trying to be the supposedly enlightened and 'understanding' liberal who 'lives and lets live'. Did I or any one else here advocate using force to make others stop engaging in whatever deviant behavior they may engage in? Identifying a behavior as deviant is not the same as using aggression to make them stop. Don't be a fool. Only liberals would think in such black and white.

[HyeJinx1984]

There's no point in talking to you. You don't get what I'm saying and I apparently don't get what you're saying. You accuse me of being black and white where as you're the one who's against relativism. I'm sorry, even on a silly ridiculous message board I like my conversations to be atleast a bit productive.

And what's this "newbie" crap you keep using? It's a xxxxing message board.. I thin after a post or two you get the hang of "what to do"... what constitutes as a newbie for you? someone who has one less post on their post count than you?

[Anonymouse]

There's no point in talking to you. You don't get what I'm saying and I apparently don't get what you're saying. You accuse me of being black and white where as you're the one who's against relativism. I'm sorry, even on a silly ridiculous message board I like my conversations to be atleast a bit productive.

And what's this "newbie" crap you keep using? It's a xxxxing message board.. I thin after a post or two you get the hang of "what to do"... what constitutes as a newbie for you? someone who has one less post on their post count than you?

What constitutes a newbie is obviously not post count, but demeanor and character.