Armenians & Homosexuality

[winoman]

Why would we take any heed in the opinions of someone concerning things (at least in part) biological when such a person is in denial of the basic known/accepted facts of biology? Its no wonder that the conclusions of such an individual are by definition (and as given) entirely laughable.

[dsarkasian]

Armenians & Homosexuality

I noticed a photo of Cher was posted above. Is she gay???? Please tell me no.

[Stark Evade]

Please tell me no.

Why ?

[TomServo]

I noticed a photo of Cher was posted above. Is she gay???? Please tell me no.

Yes. So is Liza Minnelli.

[armenianteen]

on the internet it says that cher's daughter is gay, not cher herself

[bell-the-cat]

It seems it's always the threads about homosexuality that churn out alot of posts.

Yes, I wonder why?
I was browsing here yesterday when he made his first post, and I was going to make a "where's Waldo" joke, maybe I should have.

[bell-the-cat]

on the internet it says...

So it must be true.

[axel]

modernity is characterized by the negation of all forms of tradition (in the common acceptation of the word and also in that of thinkers of modernity like Guenon or Evola). anthropocentrism, materialism, rationalism, relativism, negation of transcendence are primary traits of that phenomenon. all of this, Evola associates not without reason with the feminine spirit which, he underlines, bears strong affinities with the j-ewish one. the advent of modernity coincides with the feminization of society leading to what he terms (following Bachofen's own terminology) "gynecocracy" or, more commonly, matriarchy. that such a society "produce" homosexuals is actually no wonder. that the latter be considered as a mere category of "individuals" with a different "sexual orientation" is a mere consequence of rationalism and the total loss of the cosmic view the ancients had (I recall there's an explicit reflection about that in Tarkovsky's Solaris). Foucault is actually of the freudo-marxist breed.

Such rationalism is in fact I believe what destroyed the ancient greeks as it eroded the traditions on which that great civilization had been built. In his time, Aristophanes would mock and decry the socratic philosophers and their pretentions. and there is the opposition between Eschyles and Euripides, that of a partisan of tradition/aristocracy on one hand and one of "modernity"/democracy on the other. If homosexuality never got to be accepted in the way it does today, it might just be because the greek civilization collapsed before it did. natural selection or divine providence, as you prefer, did its job which it is prevented from doing today by some artificial means... for how long? that is the question.

[bell-the-cat]

I think one of the things which modern society does and excels at is actually producing homosexuals. Whereas in the past, such as in Greece and Rome, homosexuality was simply just a sexual behavior engaged in at times, the lifestyle that was accepted and dominant was the man/woman lifestyle and marriage. And as Foucault (himself a homosexual) pointed out, in modern society, homosexuality is no longer a sexual behavior, it is a category, a classification, and what we have come to know as "an alternative lifestyle".

That's a wise observation. But take it further. Modern Western society produces a homosexual "community" (or a Waldo would write it the "Homosexual Community") - creating what is, in effect, an ethnic group. And one that guards it territory and right to exist and recieve financial funding as viciously as any real ethnic group and actively seeks to enlarge its community, and considers any opposition to its aims as genocidal in nature. There is a similarity here to the self-proclaimed "Deaf Community" - which considers the surgical cure of deafness (a condition that is now entirely curable), as amounting to genocide.

[TomServo]

* Points remote at bell-the-cat.
* Presses mute button.