Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

No need to debate discuss with you anymore, but, it seems that you know a lot of things about Turkey politics. Why do you spend that much time for a nation that you call as Jerks? Why do these jerks still consist the most important part of your life? Why do you read, write and thing about Turks and Turkey every day? I believe diaspora should find a new identity to itself instead of Turkish hatred, because you seem so miserable with this.

Who said that I called all Turks jerks? And who said that I spend all my time on Turks? Stop inventing things about me which exist only in the figment of your imagination.

I don't have problems with all the Turks, only the genocide deniers.

I never hate, it affects my judgement.

The *only* reason why I spend some time to educate myself on matters of Turkey is because of the Genocide, which the Turkish State doesn't admit that it occured, and which is the only reason why I live in the Diaspora instead of somewhere in Van.

Deal with reality or reality will deal with you.

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Another typical "reaction" from a typical Armenian. I never said that "there is no Armenian genocide, everything is lie, etc." And I did not discuss about these at my posts. But when you see a Turk on the street or at internet you can not discuss anything with them. I think you are not mature enough to discuss these. Only thing you can do is "Hey Turk confess the genocide and go." Even you, who seem a mature and clever person enough at least comparing with them do this same reaction. "Hey Turk, I know you deny genocide, then you are X." This incontestable, evident, unquestionable "Turks made genocide to Armenians at 1915" thing is a kind of national religious faith for you and this makes you fool. You are so obsessed with this that even you threathen historians like Bernard Lewis. Most of you believe that if a Turk say that Turks did not made genocide to Armenians then you have a legal right to kill that Turk. Your madness reached to a uch level that noone can discuss you history. Your diaspora lobby make this situation so funny that even one person at Switzerland or France say that 1915 was not a genocide, that person is going to jail. Since you do not accept to talk about history how can you say to me that you are not good at history?

I can see why turkey plays an important part in their lives as their families had to leave their homes to save their lives. These people claim there have been a genocide and they will fight for their rights. you can understand it right? and I think if you reply with a "ridiculous manner" to those who you think are "immature" then it makes your reply even more "immature"...

On the other hand all of you want turks to accept the genocide and at the same time some of you are trying to humiliate them by saying they are "inferior"? and let me guess, its giving you pleasure? I dont think thats a good way of dealing with the people who you call as your "enemies". There are millions of people in turkey and not all of them are stupid as you "imagine" them to be. turks have different lifestyles and ideologies and you cant judge them all based on a single "stereotype"... If you walk on the street a min you see "soldier citizens" after a minute you see "religious citizens" and one minute later you see "rich and ignorant citizens" the other minute you see "enlightened citizens"...etc...You will need to negotiate with them and thats the only way you can solve your problem with these people in a peaceful manner. If you choose "no I like to be immature coz it gives me more pleasure" then go on and humiliate yourself. If you are lucky enough, you will get some "fanatic people" here and some of you will have a bit of "you are a donkey" conversation and it will be enough for you to "make your day".... thats just sad....

I have read his prevous posts and I dont think exfo is a "fanatic person" and he can take critisizm if said the right way. He was being sensible until he was provoked by some "extremely fanatic" people. I cannot blame him for lacking "self-critizism" as some people have been attacking him with their "words" and he had to reply to them. Am sure the only reason why he is here is to learn and discuss... I dont think his aim is to make fun of or be racist to anybody...

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Who said that I called all Turks jerks? And who said that I spend all my time on Turks? Stop inventing things about me which exist only in the figment of your imagination.

I dont think he meant "you"...But some people on the forum did call turks as jerks and some people here really look "obsessed" as they are constantly saying "turks are this and that"... am sure you know what I mean...

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I think Exefo is obsessed about Armenian's "obsession" with Turkish nation.


and he is out to prove that Armenians are like Turks... except for the small matters of religion, language, and non asian lookingness (oh and our ancestors didnt commit genocide)


I mean i don't understand exefo's motive... what does he want to accomplish? Does anyone actually believe he wants "mature historical discussion?" no way... because if he did, I would gladly debate him on the subject...

But he comes here makes fun of all armenians for wanting the genocide recognized, claims that USA has committed many genocides, as well as the armenians.... these don't seem like historical discussions rather stupid moronic comments...

Exfo, are you seriously surprised that Armenians (most) don't like the Turkish nation??? How can you be surprised?? The people know nothing about the genocide nor can they openly debate it as a political hot topic (ignorance). The government spends millions in futility to keep countries from reconizing the genocide..... and you are after all a muslim nation, and well muslims have got a bad reputation these days... i'm sorry its fact.


This thread is about armenians dating turks... and I don't think it will work because unless both people are clueless about their countires past, they will always have a problem.

At first I was trying to have a "mature discussion" with Exefo, but soon i realized he is a dumbass who doesn't have anything intelligent to bring to the debate of the Genocide.... go on to your other forums and defend the Muslim name... you know you do. I understand where he is coming from, he is mad because he thinks the world doesn't like Muslims....

why would anyone not like a muslim?

[skhara]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Armenian, maybe you should be a little less "refined" in your essays about Armenian-turk "discussions" for the simpletons among us . Oh how stupid, stupid this thread is.

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Armenian, maybe you should be a little less "refined" in your essays about Armenian-turk "discussions" for the simpletons among us . Oh how stupid, stupid this thread is.

Turk... don't you know sarcasm is not allowed in Armeniand-Turk discussions?

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Ah yes, entertainment. All I know is you already said the Genocide happened, and now you're doing what exactly? Pointing out how obsessed we Armenians are with Turks? You sir are an idiot!

"Stupid Americans" hahhahaha my Allah!! The computer you are using... probably american, the internent you're using you can thank and kiss our American ass for it. Americans use your lands for military bases, and you shut up and let us...... and then turn around and say Americans are stupid.


haha, "it's for entertainment" oh you...

I love to play and watch soccer (I'm obsessed)
I listen to Coldplay and Jack Johnson all the time (I'm obsessed)
I speak spanish with my spanish speaking friends (I'm obsessed)
I'm at work 10 hours a day (I'm obsessed)
I'm on the internet all the time (I'm obsessed)

What is your point?

I am and American-citizen pal, and here we can be obsessed with anything we want. And good job on not answering anything I say... like I said SCHOOLED!!

Show me an intelligent and rational Turk, and I will show you a European...

As an Armenian it is so bad for you to imitate foolish Americans. Anyway, continue to admire them and behave as if you are a member of them. And the rest of the world will continıe to enjoy your foolishness.

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Who said that I called all Turks jerks? And who said that I spend all my time on Turks? Stop inventing things about me which exist only in the figment of your imagination.





The *only* reason why I spend some time to educate myself on matters of Turkey is because of the Genocide, which the Turkish State doesn't admit that it occured, and which is the only reason why I live in the Diaspora instead of somewhere in Van.

Deal with reality or reality will deal with you.

So ASALA symphaty is also your hobby correct?

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I can see why turkey plays an important part in their lives as their families had to leave their homes to save their lives. These people claim there have been a genocide and they will fight for their rights. you can understand it right? and I think if you reply with a "ridiculous manner" to those who you think are "immature" then it makes your reply even more "immature"...

On the other hand all of you want turks to accept the genocide and at the same time some of you are trying to humiliate them by saying they are "inferior"? and let me guess, its giving you pleasure? I dont think thats a good way of dealing with the people who you call as your "enemies". There are millions of people in turkey and not all of them are stupid as you "imagine" them to be. turks have different lifestyles and ideologies and you cant judge them all based on a single "stereotype"... If you walk on the street a min you see "soldier citizens" after a minute you see "religious citizens" and one minute later you see "rich and ignorant citizens" the other minute you see "enlightened citizens"...etc...You will need to negotiate with them and thats the only way you can solve your problem with these people in a peaceful manner. If you choose "no I like to be immature coz it gives me more pleasure" then go on and humiliate yourself. If you are lucky enough, you will get some "fanatic people" here and some of you will have a bit of "you are a donkey" conversation and it will be enough for you to "make your day".... thats just sad....

I have read his prevous posts and I dont think exfo is a "fanatic person" and he can take critisizm if said the right way. He was being sensible until he was provoked by some "extremely fanatic" people. I cannot blame him for lacking "self-critizism" as some people have been attacking him with their "words" and he had to reply to them. Am sure the only reason why he is here is to learn and discuss... I dont think his aim is to make fun of or be racist to anybody...

The problem is you do not have enough information about Armenian diaspora at thw western countries. That's why you miss some points and believe that this "Turks are X" chatting is about some extremefanatic Armenians. No. It is a general habit of an entire nation (if we seperate western diaspora from Armenia) They believe that they can legitimate everything because of this victim psychology. I know diaspora more than you and this is not my self imagination but the reality. Even some diaspora intellectuals see this fact and warn their community from this Turkish based lifestyle.
Otherwise I have no problem to critisize the hitory of Turkey. I already try to make that mature discussion about the crimes of Turkey at 1915 but there is another fact that these people do not deserve this discussion. You say that they are fighting for their rights. No. They are fighting for nothing. They have all comfort and the reason why they insult Turks everyday at internet is because this is their national identity and lifestyle. They are afraid that if they give up the Turkish hatred one day all they will be assimilated inside western world because unfortunately this is the only notion that unite them. I recommend you to read all their posts and you will get to realise this ilness.

[Sip]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I already try to make that mature discussion about the crimes of Turkey at 1915 but there is another fact that these people ...

I don't understand what gives you the impression that there is to be a "discussion"? The facts are clear. The crime is a crime of Genocide. Now get over it and MOVE on. Stop trying to blame your problems on everyone else. Armenian diaspora this and that ... foolish Americans this and that ... none of that changes ANY of the facts so stop trying to pretend you are anything but a worthless troll here.