Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[Sip]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

"Turks are murderer, Muslims are terrorist, Ataturk was gay..."

I have never said any of that. The only thing that I have said is that you are a moron. Just because I call you an idiot, you think I am saying all the rest of the stuff. That's even more of a sign that you are a closed minded idiot that likes to make generalizations.

[exfo]

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yeah yea,I know what you mean but you should ignore some messages to a certain extent you are giving them great pleasure when you reply. I also realized something interesting in this forum which I want to share. Some armenians are being "oppressed" by "fanatic" ones even if they write even a "neutral" reply to a turk. I dont want to give names coz its obvious. These "fanatics" are in constant attempt to manipulate others and catalyze "discomfort" among people who are in dialog with turks.



I am not obsessed with anything... I have seen both turkish and armenian websites.
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here are my opinions which are solely based on my evaluation of some facts:
I personally think turks had no attept to eradicate the "armenian race" like the natzis style. This can be understood by the fact that the armenian children were "brought up" by some turks which means there was no hate towards the race or anything. As far as understand, armenians were in negotiation with the enemies and were manipulated and they were refered to as "bertrayers" because of this matter. There comes the name Talat Pasha who was meant to do a "relocation"- "techir" of "all of the armenians" in anatolia. There had been riots -(obviously) and many civil armenians were killed and this can be refered to as "massive violence" since it targeted whole pupulation of armenians. I personally think this act of "relocation" had been far off from its original purpose and I dont see why it was needed. I dont think armenian "civilians" were gonna attack turkish army and the "terrotist groups" would have been dealed individually, not by "forcing" and ending up killing innocent people... Therefore I think turkish government is guilty for their criminal acts and therefore they need to "face" the reality that killing innocent is against the rules and they need to be punished.

p.s: alakasız olacak ama "doktorlar" dizisini görün? Ben youtube dan izliyorum ve en yeni bölümün sonunda Ela ya o deli garı bişey enjekde edecekdi, o ne bilin? Çok merak ettim, kızı sakat mı bırakacak, ne yapacak :S Bayıltıp kaçıracak galiba.

I am sure that you will start to receive the same hatred messages since you are out of the mainstream official genocide history of Armenians. Do you know that if you express your above speech at Switzerland or France you will go to the jail?
p.s: People are getting crazy with the "doctors" but I have never seen it. Sorry

[Gunner14]

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by the fact that the armenian children were "brought up" by some turks which means there was no hate towards the race or anything.

p.s: alakasız olacak ama "doktorlar" dizisini görün? Ben youtube dan izliyorum ve en yeni bölümün sonunda Ela ya o deli garı bişey enjekde edecekdi, o ne bilin? Çok merak ettim, kızı sakat mı bırakacak, ne yapacak :S Bayıltıp kaçıracak galiba.

There were germans that helped xxxs, and kept them safe as much as they could....

Çok - hehe

[TomServo]

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Do you know that if you express your above speech at Switzerland or France you will go to the jail?

Swiss prison:


Turkish prison:

[Gunner14]

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Swiss prison:


Turkish prison:

TomServo, how dare you say such things about the great nation of Turkey???

You imbicile, you are a victim of western world propaganda... shame on you... don't you know there is nothing wrong with turkey? and to imply otherwise is just blasphemous.. i feel bad for you tom...

[exfo]

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I wouldnt expect "more" from you.

[Sip]

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LMAO at Turkish prison. That's probably one of the "better" Turkish prisons.

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I am sure that you will start to receive the same hatred messages since you are out of the mainstream official genocide history of Armenians. Do you know that if you express your above speech at Switzerland or France you will go to the jail?

Why is that? I dont understand... What is the mainstream official genocide history then?

There were germans that helped xxxs, and kept them safe as much as they could....

So you mean turkish people didnt help armenians while some germans helped the xxxs.? Am sure there were some turks who helped armenians if they knew each other and they were friends. As far as I can imagine the atmophere, turkey was in a war, battling their enemies. People were poor and they were also suffering. On top of this armenians were on the side of their enemies so what do you expect happens next?
I expect you to understand one and only thing. Whether you think its right or wrong, these people are thankful for their army and those who died for their country to save the lives of the rest. Again, whether you think its right or wrong, these people value their "vatan"-"land" more than anything and it became their way of life... There is great respect towards the army coz it was almost impossible for them to defeat the enemy with the "none" technology they had but since they were fighting for their "vatan", they had more caurage and power to fight and thats how they defeated their enemies.

I have respect to things I mentioned above but I personally think turkey should start to "get over" the "vatan" obsession and integrate with the rest of the world. Ok, it was necessary for them to hold on to the "turkish idendity" to battle the enemy but its no longer helpful. It just makes people look like "fanatic" and "narrow minded" individuals , nothing more...Also I think the reason why the problem with the armenians is still not solved is coz they still couldnt get over the past. However look at germany and france for example. They used to battle against eachother but now they are in the same union and people are cool about it. I feel sorry to see turkey still having problems with their neighbours...

[Lucin]

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Some of you guys are chatting with Turks about the AG; first of all the more you talk about it with the trolls the more you make it sound as a debatable question which is not, second of all their true colours show up within a post or two, and I think you are smart enough to get that.

[Siamanto]

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Armenians respect/support the ASALA mainly because the organization in question struck terror in the hearts of the enemy, the Turds.

Are you sure that they enjoyed respect and support? When? How? What percentage of Armenians? Just curious, how well do you know the history of Hay Tad during the last decades and/or what happened to the members of the ASALA?

However, most serious Armenians think that some of the operations performed by ASALA were counterproductive to its stated goals. The actions of ASALA were manipulated by the KGB and thus lead astray. Due to their Bolshevik affiliations ASALA was made to conduct operations within western nations and, as a result, they ended up killing innocent non-Turks. The aforementioned was primarily the reason why western intelligence agencies began to conduct counter-terror operations against ASALA. At the time, the only group that stayed true to its goals was the Justice Commandos of the ARF for they conducted operations exclusively against Turdish targets.

Armenian,
In the recent past, our community has suffered from internal conflicts that could have been avoided and that will, hopefully, be avoided in the future. It is sad to see that, instead of letting the past heal itself, your are spreading false rumors about the ASALA as if it would explain and justify the wrongdoing of the ARF?

1- It is absurd to state that the ASALA was manipulated by KGB; at least, not directly. As for "indirect manipulation," it can only be pure speculation or as "direct???" - and absurd - as the influence of the full moon.
Furthermore, the ASALA, besides a core, had many "satellites" - individuals or organizations - with different views of Marxism and "armed struggle"

2- Until the Artsakh war, the ARF limited itself to
2.1 Pressuring and oppressing the new generation of young Armenians willing to fight for the recognition of the Armenian Genocide using moral and physical humiliations, including life threats. Such threats happened mainly in France, Iran and Lebanon. Such threats were not limited to members of the ASALA and even included young Dashnags.
(For the record, before the 80s, the three above mentioned communities were the main poles of the Armenian Diaspora.)
2.2 Following an "opportunistic" policy that lead to a close cooperation with the same Zionist J-e-w-s and conservative Americans that you so vehemently decry
3- Many believe that the "Justice Commandos" was a dummy unit in order to stop the "internal bleeding" - i.e. keeping the younger members - and/or make claims - such as you are doing - of having contributed to the rebirth of the Hay Tad during the 1960-1990 period.

I think that it would be advisable to let the past heal itself and refrain from getting into more details because they can only tarnish the image of the ARF.