Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Some of you guys are chatting with Turks about the AG; first of all the more you talk about it with the trolls the more you make it sound as a debatable question which is not, second of all their true colours show up within a post or two, and I think you are smart enough to get that.

my true colour was there from the beginning dont worry about to too much and I also know your true colour!... you and your kind of people are talking to "manipulate" and "oppress" only. I have the right to share my ideas whether you like it or not. You either choose to agree or disagree but what you are trying to do is "manipulation" and thats unacceptable. I dont think anybody here needs your "comments" in order to get the "true colour" of what I am saying. Everyone has the brains to understand what I was saying and I meant no harm unlike you whose only purpose is "propoganda".!

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Why is that? I dont understand... What is the mainstream official genocide history then?

Well you should ask this question to the Armenians here, not me. But this is the reality. If you express your above opinions about 1915 at Switzerland or France, the police arrest you, geti into the court and then prison. Thanks for the Armenian diaspora. No matter what you believe about 1915 you have two options:
1. You will accept Armenian genocide.
2. You will keep silent. It is forbidden to say the opposite accoring to the law.

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Well you should ask this question to the Armenians here, not me. But this is the reality. If you express your above opinions about 1915 at Switzerland or France, the police arrest you, geti into the court and then prison. Thanks for the Armenian diaspora. No matter what you believe about 1915 you have two options:
1. You will accept Armenian genocide.
2. You will keep silent. It is forbidden to say the opposite accoring to the law.

I still dont understand :S...It would be nice if somebody could explain to me. I didnt said I dont accept the genocide. Instead I accepted and said as far as I understood from what I read so far, there was a "mass violence" involved towards armenians and turkish government is responsible for it and they should be panished.

I know its not easy to forget the past but if one wants to have a happy future, forgiveness and peacfulnes is the only way out. I would never want to fill my children's heart with hate. People change over time, I dont think the same way as my grandma does and it was the same for her and her grandma. Minds change over time and I believe if everybody had the intention of making peace then there wouldnt have been any wars. Violence should never be the solution to any problem. I hope my message reaches well to its destination. I think its good to give an example:

Here is a the past of statement from ..."Assembly of Turkish American Associations Regarding Cyprus Before The European Subcommittee of the House International Relations Committee, June 18, 2001"
recarding the "mass violence" my people experienced not long ago
.."It has never been declared a war under international law. The Turkish Cypriot fear of genocide was well founded. In a February 26, 1981 Athens newspaper publication, Nicos Sampson boasted that, "if Turks did not launch the operation, we not only could succeed in ENOSIS, but also eradicate the Turks from the Island.""...

Basicly, some manipulated greek cypriots had the intention of eradicating the turkish cypriots but they couldnt succeed. At schools, I was thought to "hate" greek cypriots, I was told "they are monsters", I was told "they tried to eradicate us"...It was as if all greek cypriots were "evil monsters", as if they only wanted "blood" and nothing else... Untill I met my first greek cypriot fella, that was the image I had in my mind and I was small, like 8-9 years old. After that day, I was thinking what my histor books wanted me to learn was a piece of junk. They wanted us to hate eachother coz it was to their benefit. However, I liked that person and I realized we share a lot in common. I used to know some greek from my grandma and I talked with her and she also knew some turkish...etc. After this experience I learned one important thing: I had no reason to hate a person just coz I was told her people killed mine.

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I still dont understand :S...It would be nice if somebody could explain to me. I didnt said I dont accept the genocide. Instead I accepted and said as far as I understood from what I read so far, there was a "mass violence" involved towards armenians and turkish government is responsible for it and they should be panished.

Why do you suddenly feel to express that you accept the genocide? Are you afraid that Switzerland police will arrest you, you want to be politically correct and dont want to attrack the hateful messages to you, or you have no problem about banning an opinion by the laws with prison punishment? Indeed, isn't here any single individual that feel something wrong with this???
How can you justify the decleration of an opinion result with prison???

I know its not easy to forget the past but if one wants to have a happy future, forgiveness and peacfulnes is the only way out. I would never want to fill my children's heart with hate. People change over time, I dont think the same way as my grandma does and it was the same for her and her grandma. Minds change over time and I believe if everybody had the intention of making peace then there wouldnt have been any wars. Violence should never be the solution to any problem. I hope my message reaches well to its destination. I think its good to give an example:

Here is a the past of statement from ..."Assembly of Turkish American Associations Regarding Cyprus Before The European Subcommittee of the House International Relations Committee, June 18, 2001"
recarding the "mass violence" my people experienced not long ago
.."It has never been declared a war under international law. The Turkish Cypriot fear of genocide was well founded. In a February 26, 1981 Athens newspaper publication, Nicos Sampson boasted that, "if Turks did not launch the operation, we not only could succeed in ENOSIS, but also eradicate the Turks from the Island.""...

Basicly, some manipulated greek cypriots had the intention of eradicating the turkish cypriots but they couldnt succeed. At schools, I was thought to "hate" greek cypriots, I was told "they are monsters", I was told "they tried to eradicate us"...It was as if all greek cypriots were "evil monsters", as if they only wanted "blood" and nothing else... Untill I met my first greek cypriot fella, that was the image I had in my mind and I was small, like 8-9 years old. After that day, I was thinking what my histor books wanted me to learn was a piece of junk. They wanted us to hate eachother coz it was to their benefit. However, I liked that person and I realized we share a lot in common. I used to know some greek from my grandma and I talked with her and she also knew some turkish...etc. After this experience I learned one important thing: I had no reason to hate a person just coz I was told her people killed mine.

I agree.

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Freedom of speech my ass....

1.Herant Dink
2.Orhan Pamuk
3.Elif Shafak
4.John Stuart Mill

Maybe the first country that needs to check its "freedom of speech" should be turkey eh?

point, set, match...

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Freedom of speech my ass....

1.Herant Dink
2.Orhan Pamuk
3.Elif Shafak
4.John Stuart Mill

Maybe the first country that needs to check its "freedom of speech" should be turkey eh?

point, set, match...

I was %100 sure that you will distort my question with this. The freedom of speech problems in Turkey doesnt justify the freedom of speech problems of Armenian diaspora. If you can not answer my question, at least dont manipulate it by spamming garbage. The question here now is the banning of the freedom of speech by France and Switzerland. If you want to discuss Turkey we can do it seperately, but dont use it to shield yours. At least try to be honest that much.
p.s.: I dont interest with your ass or your insults loser.

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I was %100 sure that you will distort my question with this. The freedom of speech problems in Turkey doesnt justify the freedom of speech problems of Armenian diaspora. If you can not answer my question, at least dont manipulate it by spamming garbage. The question here now is the banning of the freedom of speech by France and Switzerland. If you want to discuss Turkey we can do it seperately, but dont use it to shield yours. At least try to be honest that much.
p.s.: I dont interest with your ass or your insults loser.

I dont know what your problem is but i'm against the French and Swiss laws... i am for freedom of speech...

but if your so for freedom of speech why dont you worry about your countries problem first and they others...

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I dont know what your problem is but i'm against the French and Swiss laws... i am for freedom of speech...

You know very well what my problem is. According to French and Swiss laws it is forbidden to say that 1915 was not a genocide. If you are for freedom of speech be a true man and condemn it. But I see that you want to play the fool. Ok, go ahead. I wouldnt expect you the more. Any honest person that support the freedom of speech in this forum??? Helloooo!!!
Everbody either keep silent or play the fool when it comes to this.

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

You know very well what my problem is. According to French and Swiss laws it is forbidden to say that 1915 was not a genocide. If you are for freedom of speech be a true man and condemn it. But I see that you want to play the fool. Ok, go ahead. I wouldnt expect you the more. Any honest person that support the freedom of speech in this forum??? Helloooo!!!
Everbody either keep silent or play the fool when it comes to this.

i do condem it.... i think france and swiss went too far with this law as well as turkey.... all need to adopt american freedom of speech laws ... thats my stance, happy?

But these laws are directly related with turky's absalute denial..... they only exist in response to turkey... nothing else...

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

i do condem it.... i think france and swiss went too far with this law as well as turkey.... all need to adopt american freedom of speech laws ... thats my stance, happy?

But these laws are directly related with turky's absalute denial..... they only exist in response to turkey... nothing else...

Good, although it was a very reluctand condemn (like yes I condemn ASALA, but ASALA was a response to Turkey), no problem, condemn is condemn anyway. I question Turkey approach in this forum and elsewhere, and advice you the same about your diasporas official history. So can this be the final post between you and me since you can not control yourself about insulting me? Good. So have a nice day and best regards.