Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

[MrLeftyHye]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

No reason, just curious

Oh Okay.

[theServant]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

I think Armenians in Sydney have become more accepting I guess. it's a personal choice of course who you end up with.

I don't know any Sydney Armenians who have married an odar. Although I have to admit, finding a decent Armenian girl there is difficult.

[armo_origin]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

Are you from Sydney too?

[Sip]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

What other nationality am I dating? I would never betray Armenian women like that.

Do you have any non Armenian friends or would that also "betray" Armenians?

The reason I ask is that to me, "dating" doesn't necessarily involve sex so it's not that far from just friendship or getting to know a person. Also, in my opinion, not all dates are meant to end in a serious relationship or marriage ... people often tend to date just for fun and socializing. So basically, I'm asking what you really mean by "dating" and under what circumstances do you consider it a betrayal to "Armenian women".

[ace]

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Do you have any non Armenian friends or would that also "betray" Armenians?

The reason I ask is that to me, "dating" doesn't necessarily involve sex so it's not that far from just friendship or getting to know a person. Also, in my opinion, not all dates are meant to end in a serious relationship or marriage ... people often tend to date just for fun and socializing. So basically, I'm asking what you really mean by "dating" and under what circumstances do you consider it a betrayal to "Armenian women".

Marriage is "betrayal." Though I didn't mean it as cynical as the word makes the whole situation sound. And dating falls into that category as well. You don't fall in love at first sight, and you definitely don't get married because of that either. You date, you form a serious bond, you learn to appreciate the other person, and when you feel like you have a good foundation for a marriage - you get married.

So people here going "its a personal choice" are absolutely right. It IS a personal choice - thats why we shouldn't have problems finding Armenian spouses. You don't fall in love out of nowhere with an odar - you have to DATE one first. Who here honestly does not understand the fact that inter-ethnic marriages is cultural genocide (and probably the fastest way too)? Who can deny it? You're lying to yourselves if you think your family line will be able to keep its Armenian roots if you marry an odar.

Theres almost 10 million Armenians on this planet, and I've met some amazing people - both male and female. Nobody should have a problem in finding the "right guy" or the "right girl" within our communities. So many people who think this mentality of marrying into your own ethnicity is backwards make it seem like theres two options: Marry who EVER you want and have a good life - or - be forced to marry an Armenian due to some nationalistic cause and be unhappy for the rest of your life.

You can do both at the same time and be perfectly happy.

But like you all said, its your choice - you can choose to ignore the fact that what you're doing IS contributing to the cultural genocide (or do it knowingly) and marry an odar. I'm not going to keep you out of our 'lil circle of Armenians or look down upon you, I'll probably try to pull you closer and your kids as well, but I'm definitely not going to accept this behavior because its undoing what generations of Armenians have suffered for.

[Crissy]

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I don't know any Sydney Armenians who have married an odar. Although I have to admit, finding a decent Armenian girl there is difficult.

I know quiet a few Armenians who have married an odar or come from a mixed marriege.

define decent please. Almost all of my single friends be it guys or girls say. "where are the decent armenian boys/girls?" There are plenty of them around it's all about finding the RIGHT one for YOU. Not everyone is the same nor looking for the same qualities in their partner as you or I.

And if you are in Sydney let us know I often organise social outings for a bunch of Armenians, you'll at least get to meet new people.

[gmd]

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Marriage is "betrayal." Though I didn't mean it as cynical as the word makes the whole situation sound. And dating falls into that category as well. You don't fall in love at first sight, and you definitely don't get married because of that either. You date, you form a serious bond, you learn to appreciate the other person, and when you feel like you have a good foundation for a marriage - you get married.

So people here going "its a personal choice" are absolutely right. It IS a personal choice - thats why we shouldn't have problems finding Armenian spouses. You don't fall in love out of nowhere with an odar - you have to DATE one first. Who here honestly does not understand the fact that inter-ethnic marriages is cultural genocide (and probably the fastest way too)? Who can deny it? You're lying to yourselves if you think your family line will be able to keep its Armenian roots if you marry an odar.

Theres almost 10 million Armenians on this planet, and I've met some amazing people - both male and female. Nobody should have a problem in finding the "right guy" or the "right girl" within our communities. So many people who think this mentality of marrying into your own ethnicity is backwards make it seem like theres two options: Marry who EVER you want and have a good life - or - be forced to marry an Armenian due to some nationalistic cause and be unhappy for the rest of your life.

You can do both at the same time and be perfectly happy.

But like you all said, its your choice - you can choose to ignore the fact that what you're doing IS contributing to the cultural genocide (or do it knowingly) and marry an odar. I'm not going to keep you out of our 'lil circle of Armenians or look down upon you, I'll probably try to pull you closer and your kids as well, but I'm definitely not going to accept this behavior because its undoing what generations of Armenians have suffered for.

aperik, maybe some of us are trying to diversify our gene pool. in either case, i hope you keep your idealistic views and find the right person for you and raise a large and healthy Armenian family. just don't turn your back or look down on those of us who chose a different path.

[MrLeftyHye]

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This shouldnt even be a discussion if you think about it. If a man & woman have alot of intrests in eachother have a great time togheter & love eachother...what diffrence does it make what nationality they are? No where does it say you have to marry your own nationality.

[ace]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

aperik, maybe some of us are trying to diversify our gene pool. in either case, i hope you keep your idealistic views and find the right person for you and raise a large and healthy Armenian family. just don't turn your back or look down on those of us who chose a different path.

The Armenians have got to be one of the most diverse people genetic wise on the planet. We have been at the crossroads of the middle East, Asia, and Europe for almost 3000 years. We've been conquered by dozens of tribes and people ranging from the far north, far east, far south, and far west. And ur argument just shows how groundless the argument for inter-ethnic marriages really is. You guys are all talking about "love" and "happiness" until I tell you the catastrophic consequences this could have on a culture that our grandparents have protected in the greatest forms of oppression - NOW, its about DIVERSIFYING the gene pool for some god forsaken reason. Thats dumb.

And Mr LeftHye...it sounds fun now, but 200-300 years down the line, when you have 60-70% of the Armenian race (which is our entire diaspora) barely being able to speak Armenian or have no proper understanding of our history - its not gonna be funny or as "simple" as u put it.

Our national identity is based on a culture. We are not the xxxs and a religion does not tie us together as a national group. What makes an Armenian different from a Western European is the different cultures we have. Losing that culture means NOT being Armenian. If the entire Armenian race couldn't speak Armenian - what would make us any different than Turks? INTER-ETHNIC marriages is the FASTEST way to losing our culture.

Its a sad tale. We have protected our rich heritage in the fires of unimaginable oppression, but yet, we are forgetting our culture and our history amidst the most democratic and freest nations on the planet.

[gmd]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

The Armenians have got to be one of the most diverse people genetic wise on the planet. We have been at the crossroads of the middle East, Asia, and Europe for almost 3000 years. We've been conquered by dozens of tribes and people ranging from the far north, far east, far south, and far west. And ur argument just shows how groundless the argument for inter-ethnic marriages really is. You guys are all talking about "love" and "happiness" until I tell you the catastrophic consequences this could have on a culture that our grandparents have protected in the greatest forms of oppression - NOW, its about DIVERSIFYING the gene pool for some god forsaken reason. Thats dumb.

And Mr LeftHye...it sounds fun now, but 200-300 years down the line, when you have 60-70% of the Armenian race (which is our entire diaspora) barely being able to speak Armenian or have no proper understanding of our history - its not gonna be funny or as "simple" as u put it.

Our national identity is based on a culture. We are not the xxxs and a religion does not tie us together as a national group. What makes an Armenian different from a Western European is the different cultures we have. Losing that culture means NOT being Armenian. If the entire Armenian race couldn't speak Armenian - what would make us any different than Turks? INTER-ETHNIC marriages is the FASTEST way to losing our culture.

Its a sad tale. We have protected our rich heritage in the fires of unimaginable oppression, but yet, we are forgetting our culture and our history amidst the most democratic and freest nations on the planet.

you missed my point... no harm done. if you are so concerned then keep this in mind. the diaspora is not the future of our nation. it is needed at this moment in time. small, landlocked or not we do have our own nation. we do need young, energetic, and idealistic people to make our nation a better place for Armenians to live in. that should be the topic we are discussing, not who marries who. in the end if an Armenian living in Armenia marries an odar then there is really no harm done. the odar married to an armenian and their children become armenian by being immersed in the culture and the people.