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    White people dating Armenian

    Hey all,

    A white guy here. Yup, just another white American. Could be good or bad, right? I say that because lately, I've seen beautiful Armenian women. I think women of any race can be beautiful, but I've never been exposed to Armenian culture or people. So of course, I like to try new things. So I start researching Armenia, culture, etc. I see that you are very traditional people. From what I see, you don't like dating outside your race? Why is that?

    But I think I see a difference, 2nd, 3rd generation American girls tend to start thinking differently than their predesessors. Hopefully, if I see a nice, pretty Armenian girl at the mall or something, and I ask her out, she will accept. You see, yes there is tremendous racism in America. You're going to have that anywhere there is literally 100's of cultures. But at the same time, many people look beyond that. They don't necessarily pay attention to the past, and think about the future. Example...I am a 5th or 6th generation American. My great great grandparents were all of strict, straight bloodlines. German and Czech. But when people come here, they start mixing. During the world Wars, people on this soil united for a central cause. They started mixing, dating, creating, and now you have a ton of people like me, who are made up of probably 6 different backgrounds. What happens in Germany, Czechaslovakia (sp?), or any other country really doesnt effect me. I have to worry about America, and paying the bills, and doing whats right. I have morals, respect, integrity, and those things matter.

    So maybe their is an Armenian lady out there, who sees beyond the past, and worries about today. Compatibility, success, and love. I'm sure their is. Especially here in L.A.

    Is that something acceptable?
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    Re: White people dating Armenian

    Sure it's acceptable. But wait till you meet her mother Then you'll run for your life ahhaahahahaahah
    this post = teh win.

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      Re: White people dating Armenian

      Originally posted by neontyper View Post
      Example...I am a 5th or 6th generation American. My great great grandparents were all of strict, straight bloodlines. German and Czech. But when people come here, they start mixing. During the world Wars, people on this soil united for a central cause. They started mixing, dating, creating, and now you have a ton of people like me, who are made up of probably 6 different backgrounds. What happens in Germany, Czechaslovakia (sp?), or any other country really doesnt effect me. I have to worry about America, and paying the bills, and doing whats right. I have morals, respect, integrity, and those things matter.
      Those that do not mix are Armenians who are afraid of being victims of the "melting pot." It is a scary thought to think that one day you might come across an American with the surname Hovsepian or Minasian who knows next to nothing about Armenia and doesn't speak the language.

      I don't know if assimilation into American culture is a good or bad thing. I mean, take yourself for example. Have you maintained any of the Czech or German culture of your predecessors? Haven't you realized that the Czech Republic and Slovakia have been two completely different countries for more than a decade?

      If you are talking about the Armenians in the Glendale, California area, I'd say most of them have assimilated quite nicely (into an African-American subculture, but that's still American, right?)

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        It is a scary thought to think that one day you might come across an American with the surname Hovsepian or Minasian who knows next to nothing about Armenia and doesn't speak the language.

        Is that an objective or subjective statement?

        I don't know if assimilation into American culture is a good or bad thing. I mean, take yourself for example. Have you maintained any of the Czech or German culture of your predecessors? Haven't you realized that the Czech Republic and Slovakia have been two completely different countries for more than a decade?

        I believe that American culture is it's own, yes it's made up of many, but it becomes one. People are free to do what they want in their own homes, they are free to open a business to cater to a certain crowd, but at the same time they must follow the rules of the land. Which I don't see as much of a problem here. Sometimes there is conflict, but as a whole it seems to be working. Example, Japanese. They sit on the floor when they eat, etc. But they know when they walk into Applebees, they have to follow those (Applebees) norms. I should say also, that I realize that is from a retail standpoint. Residential can be and is different.

        As for my European ancestry, I know no one over there. All I know about it is anything on the news. As I said, I have generations of family here, in many states, and we are all very much in contact and live our own lives here.

        100 years ago in New York City, neighborhoods used to complain about each other. "Those dang Germans!" and "What are those Irish thinking???"..well, now those days are over and it's the Hispanics that are going through that here. Perhaps Armenian as well, as I said before I'm not greatly educated on the subject and I cant speak. But I'm sure you get my drift.

        into an African-American subculture, but that's still American, right?

        Exactly. So are you saying you like dubs and subs? Sh**, most of America rolls like that. Im in my late 20's now, but in the 90's we were all into that. 85% of that style is not bought or practiced by blacks, it's by suburban white kids especially in Middle America. And THAT is a place that is only black and white. Except Chicago.
        Last edited by neontyper; 04-27-2007, 11:19 AM.

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          Re: White people dating Armenian

          Originally posted by TomServo View Post
          If you are talking about the Armenians in the Glendale, California area, I'd say most of them have assimilated quite nicely (into an African-American subculture, but that's still American, right?)
          I can’t believe it…is this serious? I thought Glendale was an all-Armenian city...

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            Re: White people dating Armenian

            Originally posted by neontyper View Post
            So maybe their is an Armenian lady out there, who sees beyond the past, and worries about today. Compatibility, success, and love. I'm sure their is. Especially here in L.A.

            No actually, I’m worrying about tomorrow… the idea of marrying a non-Armenian in itself just makes me shudder. By the way, I wouldn’t compare Germans (or Czechs) to Armenians, for many reasons…

            But I’ve got a question for you, imagine that you’ve fallen in love with an Armenian woman, but she will marry you only if you accomplish certain "tasks": 1.Learning Armenian (for communication at home) 2. Raising the children as Armenians 3. Give an Armenian surname to the children (besides yours)… Now, would you agree to marry the woman in question?
            My question is in no way sarcastic.

            One last important note: The non-Armenian man in question should be white and christian.
            Last edited by Lucin; 04-27-2007, 11:44 AM.

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              Re: White people dating Armenian

              I live right next to Glendale. Census figures peg it at 40% Armenian heritage. key word "heritage", that means a lot of mixing. Here are official census figures -


              "The racial makeup of the city was 63.58% White, 1.27% Black or African American, 0.32% Native American, 16.12% Asian American, 0.08% Pacific Islander, 8.57% from other races, and 10.06% from two or more races. 19.72% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race."

              If your not familiar with Census, it's confusing. I worked for them in 2000, and it's still confusing. They do it every 10 years. It's required by law, they say, but come on now...they didn't and don't enforce any kind of law on it. Anyway, they spend a lot of money sending forms out and making calls and going door to door. They print these official numbers like I have above, but then they make statements like the top where it says 40% Armenian. Well, 40% Armenian + 63.58% white equals more than 100%. So go figure...

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                Re: White people dating Armenian

                Lucin -

                Exactly the kind of response I was looking for, thank you. 1st, clarify...German and Czech are my bloodlines. From over 100 years ago. Not comparing to anyone.

                2nd. I happen to be White and Christian. The questions you ask are interesting. To be honest, and that's why I am here...I don't think I could do that. As far as going to church together, we are both Christian, that is good. Learning Armenian? Love is a crazy thing. I've learned some Spanish in the past for that reason. But as far as speaking it fully, probably not. As I said, the languange of the land is English and thats what everyone speaks, and it's the worldwide language of business, so my kids will speak English. As my daughter does now, and she is 1/2 Mexican. She knows some Spanish for family reasons, but 98% of the time she speaks English.

                3rd. Please educate me on raising children as Armeanians.

                4th. Surname. Probably wouldn't be an issue. I dont really see that as an obstacle.

                Again, and I should be clear so we're on the same page. I'm kinda an All American Boy. Movies glorify it so extremely, but the foundation is there. So you may or may not know my type. As long as there is love between the couple, family is put first, and careers enable that family to live in a "white picket fence" house with two cars and go to college, and take vacations, etc etc than I am happy and I also love to make others happy.

                What about, say, a 20 something Armenian girl, single, went to public school in Glendale, went off to college, now shes a regular working girl? Fully Americanized. Does she share your core values?

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                  Re: White people dating Armenian

                  Originally posted by Lucin View Post
                  One last important note: The non-Armenian man in question should be white and christian.
                  Does the Armenian girl also have to be christian?
                  this post = teh win.

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                    Re: White people dating Armenian

                    neon, I think it's possible to assimilate without giving up your Armenian heritage. For example, Whittier, California, where I grew up, had a very small Armenian community. As far as I remember, it didn't even have an Armenian church. Back then it was a majority WASP city. I remember when we moved to Whittier there was only one ethnic family living on our street - another Armenian family. I befriended the Armenian kid, and soon discovered that most of his friends were WASP kids. I became friends with them too. While hanging out with them, I came to see that the Armenian community was more insular, sometimes even inconsiderate and medieval in their ways of thinking. For example, my mother thought that my white friends' parents were very irresponsible for letting them walk home from school all alone.

                    As for dating outside race or intermarriage: It was pretty common in Whittier. The librarian at the Whittier Public Library was married to an Anglo-American and there are people I knew who was half white or totally assimilated. My cousin went to a private school there and she said there was only one other Armenian person at the school and could not speak the language. In a city like Glendale, where the Armenian population is almost a majority, of course assimilation doesn't occur (at least not at a rapid rate).

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