White people dating Armenian

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So neontyper, do you need information about the Armenian Genocide, because Crimson Glow and I (especially Crimson Glow) are very educated in the subject.

[neontyper]

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Well, I'm a conservative Christian. For that reason right there, I'm pro-genocide. Crimsons article on our car website was well written. And I was right, the US wont recognize it because of political tensions. Figures. Politics are so corrupt. It's hard to get any more patriotic than me, I work for the Dept of Defense. I dont always agree with whats going on. I can see our gov is kissing Turkeys butt for whatever reason. If you want my opinion, it's all military. Turkey has a big armed forces, and if the tables were flipped and Armenia had the military, it would be recognized. Its pure politics.


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Originally Posted by TomServo View Post
I think he's pro. But is asking someone if they recognize the genocide the first thing you do when you go on a date? That's kind of ridiculous?

No, but eventually, it will show up... And I don't think an Armenian girl would find it appealing if her date thinks that the fact that Turks was trying to exterminate her race wasn't genocide and that it should be ignored...

You two summed it up well there.



See, Im a likeable kinda guy. Parents always like me. I dont think that I would have a problem dating an Armenian, depending on her level of assimilation. We would be just fine. If shes been through the melting pot obviously it would be easier. But who knows, when you meet the right one (from any culture) you will do anything for them. Up to and including any tasks she requests.

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Well, I'm a conservative Christian. For that reason right there, I'm pro-genocide. Crimsons article on our car website was well written. And I was right, the US wont recognize it because of political tensions. Figures. Politics are so corrupt. It's hard to get any more patriotic than me, I work for the Dept of Defense. I dont always agree with whats going on. I can see our gov is kissing Turkeys butt for whatever reason. If you want my opinion, it's all military. Turkey has a big armed forces, and if the tables were flipped and Armenia had the military, it would be recognized. Its pure politics.


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Originally Posted by TomServo View Post
I think he's pro. But is asking someone if they recognize the genocide the first thing you do when you go on a date? That's kind of ridiculous?

No, but eventually, it will show up... And I don't think an Armenian girl would find it appealing if her date thinks that the fact that Turks was trying to exterminate her race wasn't genocide and that it should be ignored...

You two summed it up well there.



See, Im a likeable kinda guy. Parents always like me. I dont think that I would have a problem dating an Armenian, depending on her level of assimilation. We would be just fine. If shes been through the melting pot obviously it would be easier. But who knows, when you meet the right one (from any culture) you will do anything for them. Up to and including any tasks she requests.

The procrastination of recognition of the Genocide by the US as a whole is definitely caused by politics, unfortunately. But, us [Armenians] won't give up until our rights are fulfilled.

Anyway, since the kid's culture and beliefs depend on the mom's since the mother takes care of the child, if you would allow this to happen (and the child would learn English, too, of course), then it doesn't seem like the parents would be against you. The reason why Armenian parents are more concerned of the "melting pot" is because of how most of the Armenian population was destroyed after the Genocide, and they don't want our sustained culture to be lost, but if you would let the culture flow through to your children, like I already said, I don't think there would be any problem.

[Lucin]

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Lucin -

Exactly the kind of response I was looking for, thank you. 1st, clarify...German and Czech are my bloodlines. From over 100 years ago. Not comparing to anyone.

Armenia’s geo-political situation can’t be compared to that of Germany or Czech (just have a look at our ‘civilized’ neighbours). One of Armenia’s great assets, today, is the Diaspora on which the country is hugely dependent and keeping it alive is a constant battle for all of us.

2nd. I happen to be White and Christian. The questions you ask are interesting. To be honest, and that's why I am here...I don't think I could do that. As far as going to church together, we are both Christian, that is good. Learning Armenian? Love is a crazy thing. I've learned some Spanish in the past for that reason. But as far as speaking it fully, probably not. As I said, the languange of the land is English and thats what everyone speaks, and it's the worldwide language of business, so my kids will speak English. As my daughter does now, and she is 1/2 Mexican. She knows some Spanish for family reasons, but 98% of the time she speaks English.

3rd. Please educate me on raising children as Armeanians.

Lol, you can only learn certain things but most importantly you’d just need to cooperate with the woman on this issue.

4th. Surname. Probably wouldn't be an issue. I dont really see that as an obstacle.

Good...I was not expecting this one from a Man.

What about, say, a 20 something Armenian girl, single, went to public school in Glendale, went off to college, now shes a regular working girl? Fully Americanized. Does she share your core values?

For sure, there are who do share the same with me…
Anyway… one ( Armenian) could live today in France, tomorrow in America or anywhere but the ‘thing’ is that you always remain Armenian.

Does the Armenian girl also have to be christian?

If the girl wants the man to be a Christian then logic says she is so too…

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But Lucin, isn't the recognition of the Armenian Genocide another factor?

[skhara]

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Would a girl ask me specific questions about the genocide? Or does it depend on how assimilated, Americanized, she is?

LOL This conversation is pretty funny.

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LOL This conversation is pretty funny.

A little...

[neontyper]

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hey all

Well, it was 5 months ago or so, I came on here asking questions are Armenian girls. I got some good answers, and went out on my quest. And on that quest I had some educational times.

I met some nice Armenian girls, and I met some arrogant Armenian girls. Some wouldn't give the time of day, others were as normal as apple pie. I'm of the opinion that, as stated to me previously, some are fully Americanized and some choose not to be. For the record, I was a bit offended at the ones that choose not to be as this is technically more my country and culture than an immigrants, but that feeling goes toward all races and not just one. But, as with any other day, there are plenty of fish in the sea and I didn't put anything into that.

So onto my experiences. I started out with a couple simple coffee dates at Starbucks. Very chill, non comittment type of atmosphere. The good thing about starting a strange date at a place like, that, either party can call it off quickly and with dignity if things jsut dont go right. I had some good times, made a few new friends, and learned a few new things.

To make things short, I've learned that image is important to most of your women. Sometimes, more important than substinance. Flashy car, clothes, and looks are tops. Even if it means breaking the bank, or actually being hood rich. One engaging conversation went down that path, and I understood her wanting to look good. And she did. But it seemed to end there. When it came to light financial discussion, I tried to go into the importance of saving, and how driving a cheaper car is actually a more financially sound way to go, blah blah but she was more concerned with simply her looks. I mearly agreed, did not want to make things become akward with difference of opinion, and moved onto the next subject.

Another date with a more Americanized girl was more enlightning. She was a pretty down @$$ chick, as nice as the day is long. We still talk. Maybe it will progress, maybe not. Even being Americanized, there are many subcultures in America. West coast, East coast, redneck, midwest, thuggish, preppy, jock, etc etc. Her family likes to get together, do a shish kebob thing (thats pretty tasty), drink and smoke. Problem with me, personally, was beer vs vodka. I'm more of a dive bar, NASCAR race on sunday kinda guy. She's a little more upscale. Not a problem for friends, but could be if it progressed.

Just thought I'd come on and share some experiences with you. I did notice a similiarity between Amrenian and Mexican assimilation. As many white families are 6+ generation here, others are maybe on their 2 or 3 generation. As each generation is born, there is a greater divide between those who want to hold onto traditional methods, and those who become part of pop culture. Interesting to see how things will pan out during the next 40 years. But I'll be a fossil by then anyway.

[Azad]

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Neontyper I like your balancing act.
Most of your logic was to convince Armenians to speed up the American integration and yet you started you first post by ... "A white guy here." Can you please tell us what is the importance of being "White" in America? and how does it differ on retaining the "White" part and not the "Blue Eye club" or "Armenian" one?

[Sip]

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For the record, I was a bit offended at the ones that choose not to be as this is technically more my country and culture than an immigrants...

When did your family emigrate here?

And hope you realize Armenians are technically "caucasian/white" even though much like any other topic, there are also many threads that will argue that ad nausium. So I assume when you say "white" in your posts you are actually referring to some of the earlier European settlers that came to the US and still do.