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  • #11
    Re: Eugenics

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Yes, I'm disagreeing with it. They laid the groundwork which led to these sorts of scientific endeavors.
    Don't know why I expected anything else...

    By that "logic" Jesus was at fault for the Crusades and the Inquisition because he laid the ground work which led to these sorts of religious endeavors. The Wright brothers are at fault for 9/11, Newton for weapons like bullets, cannon, missiles, etc., Pasteur for biological warfare, and so on...

    Science is about acquiring knowledge. How that knowledge gets used by others is an entirely separate issue.
    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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    • #12
      Re: Eugenics

      Originally posted by Siggie View Post
      Don't know why I expected anything else...
      By that "logic" Jesus was at fault for the Crusades and the Inquisition because he laid the ground work which led to these sorts of religious endeavors. The Wright brothers are at fault for 9/11, Newton for weapons like bullets, cannon, missiles, etc., Pasteur for biological warfare, and so on...
      Your "logic" fails you since the motives behind Sir Francis Galton's and Charles Darwin's work was directed towards putting humanity on the same scale as animals.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #13
        Re: Eugenics

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Your "logic" fails you since the motives behind Sir Francis Galton's and Charles Darwin's work was directed towards putting humanity on the same scale as animals.
        That statement makes is evident that you don't even understand evolution. If you'd like to tell me otherwise, I invite you to describe the basics of the theory. And don't paste me some some blog post like you usually do... I'm asking you.

        That was not their motive. Darwin's motive was to understand how there were so many varied species all so seemingly well adapted to their environments.
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        • #14
          Re: Eugenics

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          That was not their motive. Darwin's motive was to understand how there were so many varied species all so seemingly well adapted to their environments.

          No, the problem with these British "intellectuals" is all the same. They think they are superior minded people who believe that some humans are less human than others and don't deserve to be treated in the same manner and their justification in doing so is "scientific study".
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #15
            Re: Eugenics

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            No, the problem with these British "intellectuals" is all the same. They think they are superior minded people who believe that some humans are less human than others and don't deserve to be treated in the same manner and their justification in doing so is "scientific study".
            Science is neutral. It seeks knowledge. It doesn't take sides. It is not racist.
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            • #16
              Re: Eugenics

              Originally posted by Siggie View Post
              Science is neutral. It seeks knowledge. It doesn't take sides. It is not racist.


              Originally posted by Siggie View Post
              That statement makes is evident that you don't even understand evolution. If you'd like to tell me otherwise, I invite you to describe the basics of the theory. And don't paste me some some blog post like you usually do... I'm asking you.
              What does Eugenics have to do with Evolution????

              Originally posted by Siggie View Post
              Science is about acquiring knowledge. How that knowledge gets used by others is an entirely separate issue.
              LOL, I can't believe you're defending Eugenics. Doesn't surprise me.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #17
                Re: Eugenics

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post




                What does Eugenics have to do with Evolution????
                Really? Contradicting yourself much?

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                LOL, I can't believe you're defending Eugenics. Doesn't surprise me.
                Only you would think I'm defending eugenics.
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                • #18
                  Re: Eugenics

                  Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                  Really? Contradicting yourself much?
                  No, really. Eugenics has nothing to do with evolution unless you think it does.

                  Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                  Only you would think I'm defending eugenics.
                  You are because according to you science is infallible and cannot be criticized.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #19
                    Re: Eugenics

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    You are because according to you science is infallible and cannot be criticized.
                    I don't think Siggie has said that. That is the basic definition of religion and we both know what she thinks about religions
                    this post = teh win.

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                    • #20
                      Re: Eugenics

                      Originally posted by Sip View Post
                      I don't think Siggie has said that. That is the basic definition of religion and we both know what she thinks about religions
                      Religion: "the meek shall inherit the earth"
                      Science: "f*ck that, we're going to kill the meek so they can't inherit it"
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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