Ultimate Fight Night on Spike...

[Lamb Boy]

Did anyone see the David Loiseau VS Evan Tanner on Spike on Monday?

My girlfriend was watching Medium so I caught the commercial break sections.

At first I thought David Loiseau was going to lose but when I switched back apparently he won by using his devastating elbows. David is NASTY at strikes and blows. I'd hate to be on the receiving end!!

Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows where to find some online replay action on that bout.

I guess to make this thread a tad more interesting I'll pose this question...

Is UFC a more purist fighting sport than boxing?

I think that it is as boxers employ some really wack strategies to win bouts. For instance when they're all tired and all they do is hold on to each other trying to use their heads to create or worsen a brow wound. Even worse when they try to use the gloves lace "o" rings (the metal pieces that the laces intertwine through) to create an brow wound so that their opponent will get blood in their eye making it much harder to fight.

I do enjoy a good boxing match but more times than not it seems like the above strategies more than actual trading blows.

I bet a lot of boxers including Mike Tyson would get their butt handed to them in a UFC fight. Imagine Mike T. against an amazing heavyweight grappler. Since he likes to bite ppls ears off he might as well sign up!

[Anonymouse]

Well, as the biggest Mixed Martial Arts fan, I am surprised at myself because I actually missed it.

To be honest, I am not happy with UFC in recent times. If you want more discussions on this, search the sports forum as there have been several discussions of both UFC and Pride Fighting Championships.

As far as purity of sports, boxing is more pure than MMA, however, that does not always translate into more exciting, especially in the recent years it's been lackluster.

If you haven't seen Pride Fighting you are missing what MMA is all about. UFC sucks ass right now.

There were offers for Mike Tyson to fight but I guess nothing came of it. First, Mike was offered to fight in Japan in Pride Fighting, and then he was offered to fight Bob Sapp in K-1 (I'm sure you know what K-1) is. But it never came to fruition.

Boxing and boxers are limited in their style, therefore, they can never compete in an MMA match with an MMA fighter. Styles make fights, and in order to be the best fighter you must be cross trained as a hybrid fighter not in just one style, but, as Bruce Lee said, in many styles.

[TJ]

Well, as the biggest Mixed Martial Arts fan, I am surprised at myself because I actually missed it.

To be honest, I am not happy with UFC in recent times. If you want more discussions on this, search the sports forum as there have been several discussions of both UFC and Pride Fighting Championships.

As far as purity of sports, boxing is more pure than MMA, however, that does not always translate into more exciting, especially in the recent years it's been lackluster.

If you haven't seen Pride Fighting you are missing what MMA is all about. UFC sucks ass right now.

There were offers for Mike Tyson to fight but I guess nothing came of it. First, Mike was offered to fight in Japan in Pride Fighting, and then he was offered to fight Bob Sapp in K-1 (I'm sure you know what K-1) is. But it never came to fruition.

Boxing and boxers are limited in their style, therefore, they can never compete in an MMA match with an MMA fighter. Styles make fights, and in order to be the best fighter you must be cross trained as a hybrid fighter not in just one style, but, as Bruce Lee said, in many styles.

UFC definately doesnt live up to the standard of K-1 and even Pride right now. It seems that the more into the spotlight it gets the more I lose interest in it. As for Tyson fighting Sapp, that would be a suicide wish for him and how much money can K-1 afford to offer him for a fight like that anyway?

[Anonymouse]

UFC definately doesnt live up to the standard of K-1 and even Pride right now. It seems that the more into the spotlight it gets the more I lose interest in it. As for Tyson fighting Sapp, that would be a suicide wish for him and how much money can K-1 afford to offer him for a fight like that anyway?

The UFC recently made some bad decisions, such as dismissing alot of their veteran fighters who pioneered the sport, in favor of these lame TUF guys because the UFC stupidly believes that SpikeTV is it's path to glory and those shytty fighters they have, they believe will get them the big money, shytty fighters like Diego Sanchez.

Even more recently, the UFC banned sports coverage for the next pay per view event of key MMA News organizations that helped pioneer the sport and give an outside balanced, objective view: Sherdog.com, MMAWeekly.com, Full Contact Fighter, and a bunch of others. Whereas in the past, we used to get pre-fight interviews, the weigh-in videos, the post-fight interviews. None of that will be available, all becuase the UFC under the stupid moron Dana White decided it would barr the outside organizations from covering the event. Rumor has it that the UFC is trying to go in a WWE style road of making their own magazine, or news organization that will circulate the news. The critical and objective coverage we have received will be no more as UFC will be the only one covering and offering news about the UFC. Such is what happens when an organization gains monopoly status, as the UFC has in America. Of course, their monopoly will slowly erode as other organizations rise, and as Pride tries to make a breakthrough in the American market. I only count the days.

But Karo Parisyan will be fighting Matt Hughes in one of the upcoming UFC's and I hope Karo defeats Matt, although realistically speaking, Matt has such a strength advantage it may be difficult.

As far as Tyson, the guy is bankrupt. Any money he can get will be of help. However, he doesn't want to fight anymore because he knows he isn't what he used to be. In other words, if he can get schooled in boxing by B-class fighters such as Byrd (or was it Bird), he will most definitely get schooled by MMA fighters who are not just about boxing, these are guys who know how to fight in the full sense of the word.

[Lamb Boy]

[QUOTE=Anonymouse]If you haven't seen Pride Fighting you are missing what MMA is all about. UFC sucks ass right now.QUOTE]

Actually to be honest I haven't heard of K-1 or Pride but thank you for letting me in on those two ... apprec.

I watch UFC cause I know when it's coming on consistently and it comes with my cable channels ... Spike that is. In all honesty I stopped watching UFC when Royce Gracie was still on top so it's been a minute. Recently I've been getting back into it because boxing is KILLING ME!! I agree it's a great sport but lately it's sucked majorly.

You can probably seriously school me on the K-1 and Pride...

I'd like some more info on where I can watch these tournies ... I imagine they're all pay-per-view, right?

[Anonymouse]

[QUOTE=Lamb Boy]

If you haven't seen Pride Fighting you are missing what MMA is all about. UFC sucks ass right now.QUOTE]

Actually to be honest I haven't heard of K-1 or Pride but thank you for letting me in on those two ... apprec.

I watch UFC cause I know when it's coming on consistently and it comes with my cable channels ... Spike that is. In all honesty I stopped watching UFC when Royce Gracie was still on top so it's been a minute. Recently I've been getting back into it because boxing is KILLING ME!! I agree it's a great sport but lately it's sucked majorly.

You can probably seriously school me on the K-1 and Pride...

I'd like some more info on where I can watch these tournies ... I imagine they're all pay-per-view, right?

Yes, both K-1 and Pride are on Pay-per-view just like UFC. Pride is the best MMA organization by far. It has some of the best fighters from around the world, whereas UFC is very limited and caters mostly to the American beer drinking redneck crowd. Pride is international, UFC is national. Pride is like the superbowl of MMA. They have a really good upcoming show.

https://www.ufc.tv

https://www.pridefc.com

https://www.so-net.ne.jp/feg/k-1gp/

For the MMA forums and news I suggest

https://www.sherdog.com

https://www.mmaweekly.com

[Lamb Boy]

Thanks for the links...

You know I never realized how many rules all these organizations have for their fighters.

I remember this one match in UFC where this Asian grappler just got whacked in the groin, on purpose, like seven times. I don't think that's really great or anything but it was amusing /astonishing to watch this guy just take it! There was a period when, in UFC, there weren’t any rounds either, correct? Royce got killed for almost half an hour before getting this huge guy into a submission hold ...

[Anonymouse]

Thanks for the links...

You know I never realized how many rules all these organizations have for their fighters.

I remember this one match in UFC where this Asian grappler just got whacked in the groin, on purpose, like seven times. I don't think that's really great or anything but it was amusing /astonishing to watch this guy just take it! There was a period when, in UFC, there weren’t any rounds either, correct? Royce got killed for almost half an hour before getting this huge guy into a submission hold ...

I believe you are referring to Keith Hackney versus Jo Son, who represented his cheesy art called Jo Son Do! Haha he has been a laffing stock for ages. Fortunately this event was in the early days of UFC when there were very little to no rules. Since then, the organization and the sport have evolved, and to gain legitimacy in the mainstream have had to adopt rules to protect their fighters and the image. It helped it move from the mere 'amateur' idea of "brawling" to a more controlled combat sport.

EDIT: Oh yea and the fight you are referring to at the end was Royce Gracie vs Kimo Leopoldo. That was in UFC 1, 2, or 3 I forget. Yes, back then it was pretty much no rules and no time limits, the closest to a real street fighting situation. Royce eventually pulled out of the tournament that night because his ribs were damaged from his fight with Kimo. But that fight showed that it is not always size and power that win.

[nimda]

Nov 19th, is when the Karo vs Matt Hughes fight is on.

I hope Karo wins ... but yes, Matt Hughes is a mini-tank.... Hopefully Karo's judo adoptation for MMA will work.

[Anonymouse]

Nov 19th, is when the Karo vs Matt Hughes fight is on.

I hope Karo wins ... but yes, Matt Hughes is a mini-tank.... Hopefully Karo's judo adoptation for MMA will work.

Thanks for the date. I also hope Karo wins. I love watching him fight. He has come such a long way. I used to train in Judo with him at Gokor's when we were 12 or 13. I quit but look at him go. He's in the UFC now!

The only thing Matt Hughes has going for him, is his sheer animal strength. Otherwise, he has shown that he is vulnerable to submission guys, such as B.J. Penn. I do hope Karo pulls out the victory, especially since after Matt has talked crap about Judo.