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      Vigen Sargsyan: Russian military base in Armenia is responsible for country’s security matters



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      Quote Originally Posted by londontsi View Post
      the President would be shagging the vice president.
      They literally have control of all the country's assets in personal overseas accounts. “shagging the vice president” would be the last thing on their mind.
      Also, aliyev is a cuckold! He like others to shag his vice president. The way he hugs lukashenko and erdogan is weird.
      You can tell what the new Vice President is thinking in this picture.

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OKrycCJ5PTU/maxresdefault.jpg

      This is not normal

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxXysJW4AAphTB.jpg

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      Azerbaijan claims one of their soldiers was killed by an Armenian artillery strike

      Փետրվարի 22-ին սպանվել է Ադրբեջանի ԶՈւ զինծառայող
      Posted on Փետրվար 22, 2017 by Տարոն Հովհաննիսյան | Leave a comment

      Փետրվարի 22-ին Ադրբեջանի պաշտպանության նախարարությունը հայտնել է, որ նույն օրը Արցախի շփման գծում սպանվել է Ադրբեջանի բանակի զինծառայող, Խալիլով Խանօղլու Ինթիզամ օղլուն (Xəlilov Xanoğlan İntizam oğlu): Ադրբեջանական կողմի պնդմամբ՝ զինծառայողը սպանվել է հայկական կողմի հրետանային կրակի հետևանքով: Այս մասին հայտնում է Ադրբեջանի ՊՆ կայքը:

      Համաձայն Ադրբեջանի ՊՆ հայտարարության՝ միջադեպը գրանցվել է փետրվարի 22-ի կեսօրին:

      Հիշեցնենք, որ համաձայն Պաշտպանության բանակի հայտարարության, ադրբեջանական զինուժը փետրվարի լույս 22-ի գիշերը հայկական դիրքերի ուղղությամբ կիրառել է Դ-44 թնդանոթներ, 60, 82 և 120 մմ ականանետներ, տարբեր տրամաչափի հրաձգային զինատեսակներ:

      http://razm.info/96763
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      Quote Originally Posted by armnuke View Post
      I don't see anything new with those helmets. They don't even match our camo.
      We need to produce our helmets.
      yes they are smthn new, never seen thos before, i cant find em on net so maybe those are our production? but camo on it looks russian
      Armenian Military Portal

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      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Quote Originally Posted by Federate View Post
      Azerbaijan claims one of their soldiers was killed by an Armenian artillery strike

      Փետրվարի 22-ին սպանվել է Ադրբեջանի ԶՈւ զինծառայող
      Posted on Փետրվար 22, 2017 by Տարոն Հովհաննիսյան | Leave a comment

      Փետրվարի 22-ին Ադրբեջանի պաշտպանության նախարարությունը հայտնել է, որ նույն օրը Արցախի շփման գծում սպանվել է Ադրբեջանի բանակի զինծառայող, Խալիլով Խանօղլու Ինթիզամ օղլուն (Xəlilov Xanoğlan İntizam oğlu): Ադրբեջանական կողմի պնդմամբ՝ զինծառայողը սպանվել է հայկական կողմի հրետանային կրակի հետևանքով: Այս մասին հայտնում է Ադրբեջանի ՊՆ կայքը:

      Համաձայն Ադրբեջանի ՊՆ հայտարարության՝ միջադեպը գրանցվել է փետրվարի 22-ի կեսօրին:

      Հիշեցնենք, որ համաձայն Պաշտպանության բանակի հայտարարության, ադրբեջանական զինուժը փետրվարի լույս 22-ի գիշերը հայկական դիրքերի ուղղությամբ կիրառել է Դ-44 թնդանոթներ, 60, 82 և 120 մմ ականանետներ, տարբեր տրամաչափի հրաձգային զինատեսակներ:

      http://razm.info/96763
      So when will this ancient D-44 artillery battery be wiped out for good?
      I don't like to do the keyboard general, but it has been around 10 days that we're hearing about D-44 shelling almost everyday.
      Last edited by armnuke; 02-22-2017 at 07:17 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Azad View Post
      They literally have control of all the country's assets in personal overseas accounts. “shagging the vice president” would be the last thing on their mind.
      Also, aliyev is a cuckold! He like others to shag his vice president. The way he hugs lukashenko and erdogan is weird.
      You can tell what the new Vice President is thinking in this picture.

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OKrycCJ5PTU/maxresdefault.jpg

      This is not normal

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxXysJW4AAphTB.jpg

      I remember many years ago when his father still was the president I read somewhere that while Ilham was studying in Abroad, London I think, his behavior was alarming as he was living a waistfull nightlife. There were rumors about his visits to clubs that generated lot of gossips about his identity.
      His father, Heidar Aliev, arranged his marriage to Mehriban, as Mehriban was a daughter of a most powerful clan. Afterwards, after Ilham became president, gossips circulated about Mehriban's past too, as she spent a lot of time abroad before marriage too.
      Especially there were gossips about her relations with several powerful or reach playboys, among them Lukashenko.
      This gossip about Mehriban and Lukashenko I read about maybe 10 years ago.
      From what it looks like, Ilham's and Mehriban's relationship could be a one of open marriage or some bisexual husband's setup kind of thing.
      Think about it, there allways been appearances of a very, very worm relationship between Ilham and Lukashenko for a long time. Not just recently. This is unusual between heads of two states.
      I am not saying that Mehriban is sleeping with Lukashenko now. But a fine memory shared between open minded or more than ordinary husband and wife could create worm feelings and special connection between husband(who could be feeding his own bisexual fantasies) and wife's best lover(s) from past.

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      ՌԴ-ում ուսանում է ավելի քան 200 հայ կուրսանտ. Վիգեն Սարգսյան
      Փետրվար 22, 2017

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      I cant do the math.... how can we buy this much of weaponry and yet according to them just $152,000,000 was spent within 6 years!?


      2016 թ. Հայաստանը զենքի համաշխարհային ներկրումների ծավալով 52-րդն է. SIPRI
      Փետրվար 22, 2017

      Փետրվարի 22-ին «Ստոկհոլմի խաղաղության միջազգային հետազոտությունների ինստիտուտը» (SIRPI) հրապարակել է 2016 թ. զենքի համաշխարհային առևտրի վերբերյալ սեփական հետազոտությունը, համաձայն որի՝ 2016 թ. Հայաստանը գնել է 79 մլն դոլար արժողությամբ զենք: Այս ցուցանիշով Հայաստանը 2016 թ. ընթացքում զենքի համաշխարհային ներկրողների ցանկում 52-րդն է:

      Մեկ այլ ցուցակում SIRPI-ին նշում է, որ 2016 թ. Հայաստանը Ռուսաստանից գնել է 4 միավոր 9P38 «Իսկանդեր» օպերատիվ մարտավարական հրթիռային համալիր, ինչպես նաև համալիրների համար նախատեսված 25 միավոր հրթիռ:

      Նշենք, սակայն, որ զեկույցն ամենայն հավանականությամբ թերի է, քանի որ այստեղ ներառված չեն առնվազն նույն 2016 թ. սեպտերմբերի 21-ի զորահանդեսին ցուցադրված «Բուկ» զենիթահրթիռային համալիրները, «Սմերչ» համազարկային կրակի ռեակտիվ համակարգերը և այլ զինտեխնիկա:

      Ավելացնենք, որ համաձայն նույն ինստիտուտի հետազոտության՝ 2010-16 թթ. Հայաստանը ներկրել է ընդհանուր առմամբ 152 մլն դոլարի զենք, այդ թվում՝ 142 մլն դոլարի՝ Ռուսաստանից, 7 մլն դոլարի՝ Ուկրաինայից, ինչպես նաև ևս 2 մլն դոլար արժողությամբ զենք Մոնտենեգրոյից:

      Ինչ վերաբերում է «Իսկանդեր» համալիրներին, ապա 2017 թ. փետրվարի 22-ին ՀՀ պաշտպանության նախարար Վիգեն Սարգսյանը հայտարարել էր, որ դրանք պատկանում են Հայաստանին, և դրանք կառավարում են նրանք, ում համալիրները պատկանում են:

      http://razm.info/96783
      Last edited by Spetsnaz; 02-22-2017 at 07:56 AM.

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      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Quote Originally Posted by Spetsnaz View Post
      I cant do the math.... how can we buy this much of weaponry and yet according to them just $152,000,000 was spent within 6 years!?


      2016 թ. Հայաստանը զենքի համաշխարհային ներկրումների ծավալով 52-րդն է. SIPRI
      Փետրվար 22, 2017

      Փետրվարի 22-ին «Ստոկհոլմի խաղաղության միջազգային հետազոտությունների ինստիտուտը» (SIRPI) հրապարակել է 2016 թ. զենքի համաշխարհային առևտրի վերբերյալ սեփական հետազոտությունը, համաձայն որի՝ 2016 թ. Հայաստանը գնել է 79 մլն դոլար արժողությամբ զենք: Այս ցուցանիշով Հայաստանը 2016 թ. ընթացքում զենքի համաշխարհային ներկրողների ցանկում 52-րդն է:

      Մեկ այլ ցուցակում SIRPI-ին նշում է, որ 2016 թ. Հայաստանը Ռուսաստանից գնել է 4 միավոր 9P38 «Իսկանդեր» օպերատիվ մարտավարական հրթիռային համալիր, ինչպես նաև համալիրների համար նախատեսված 25 միավոր հրթիռ:

      Նշենք, սակայն, որ զեկույցն ամենայն հավանականությամբ թերի է, քանի որ այստեղ ներառված չեն առնվազն նույն 2016 թ. սեպտերմբերի 21-ի զորահանդեսին ցուցադրված «Բուկ» զենիթահրթիռային համալիրները, «Սմերչ» համազարկային կրակի ռեակտիվ համակարգերը և այլ զինտեխնիկա:

      Ավելացնենք, որ համաձայն նույն ինստիտուտի հետազոտության՝ 2010-16 թթ. Հայաստանը ներկրել է ընդհանուր առմամբ 152 մլն դոլարի զենք, այդ թվում՝ 142 մլն դոլարի՝ Ռուսաստանից, 7 մլն դոլարի՝ Ուկրաինայից, ինչպես նաև ևս 2 մլն դոլար արժողությամբ զենք Մոնտենեգրոյից:

      Ինչ վերաբերում է «Իսկանդեր» համալիրներին, ապա 2017 թ. փետրվարի 22-ին ՀՀ պաշտպանության նախարար Վիգեն Սարգսյանը հայտարարել էր, որ դրանք պատկանում են Հայաստանին, և դրանք կառավարում են նրանք, ում համալիրները պատկանում են:

      http://razm.info/96783
      The article says that not everything is reported by SIPRI.
      I'm guessing the weapons we receive from the Russian base are not reported, as they are not a formal arms transfer transaction.

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      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Դիմանկարներ Արցախի սահմանից






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      It’s time for the US Congress to scrap the sanctions on Azerbaijan

      Pool-hustling Minnesota Fats couldn’t find a better foreign policy “bank shot” than that presented to US President Donald Trump by the visit of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who also made a historic visit to Azerbaijan not long ago. Israel and Azerbaijan are close.

      Azerbaijan, like Israel, lives in a dangerous place. Besides neighboring Armenia occupying 20% of its national territory, Azerbaijan shares borders with Russia and Iran, both of which have in the past invaded Azerbaijan and divided it between themselves. Russia continues to concern itself with events in the Caucasus Mountains, as it has for hundreds of years.

      Iran claims a “fraternal” relationship with Azerbaijan yet publicly decries Azerbaijan’s close relationship with Israel.

      Azerbaijan’s importance is strategic geographically, as the world’s only nation that borders Russia and Iran, and as a major energy producer of oil and natural gas. Besides geography and energy, Azerbaijan remains a key US partner in a challenging region and has world-class religious tolerance, unique in the Muslim world.

      The new Trump administration offers an opportunity for the US to help its ally Israel and to cultivate energy-rich Azerbaijan as an ally. Israel needs Azerbaijani oil and Azerbaijan is building its self-defense capability with arms purchases from Israel. The US is prohibited from supplying weapons to Azerbaijan under current law. The prohibition was instituted in 1992.

      In the fall of 1992, just a year after Azerbaijan declared independence from the Soviet Union, professional lobbyists from the small Armenian-American community (476,000 total US population, 2010) convinced Congress to ban non-humanitarian economic aid and weapons sales to Azerbaijan, when it adopted Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. Their argument: Azerbaijan had imposed an “illegal blockade” on Armenia during the course of the Armenian- controlled Nagorno-Karabakh war. The lobbyists convinced the Democrat-controlled Congress at the time that Armenian starvation was imminent.

      Nobody starved. There was no truth in the claim that Azerbaijan had instituted a crippling blockade: Armenia’s hundreds of kilometers of open border with the Republic of Georgia were in fact unaffected as were supplies (through Georgia) from Russia and through its southern border with Iran. Nonetheless, the 907 sanctions remain in effect 25 years later.
      The Armenian lobby is still at it in the meantime. Recently an Armenian writer, Dr. Areg Galstyan, a regular contributor to The National Interest, Forbes and the head of the American Studies Research Center (Russia) referred in The Hill to that blockade 25 years ago with these words; “this blockade, which prohibited the United States to provide aid to Azerbaijan is due to the aggressive actions against Armenians in [Nagorno-Karabakh] and illegal blockade of the border with Armenia.”

      What Galstyan does not understand is that an invaded country is not required to feed the invading country. Closing the border with the invading country seems to be logical exercise by the invaded country.

      After all, it is being invaded.

      While the congressional prohibitions have been in force, the United States has showered Armenia with $2 billion worth of aid, while its aid to Azerbaijan was limited to “humanitarian” aid only. Congress has provided a waiver procedure which presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama used to grant some aid to Azerbaijan. Undoubtedly President Donald Trump will continue issuing waivers.

      A better solution would be for the Republican-led Congress to scrap Section 907 altogether to allow more aid to pro-American Azerbaijan in its self-defense. It buys weapons from Israel, Israel buys oil from Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan buys weapons from Russia. Azerbaijan pays cash.

      Recently Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited Azerbaijan.

      On that day, oil flowed 1700 km.

      through a pipeline from Azerbaijan to fuel the energy needs of Israeli households. A short time earlier Azerbaijan had announced it was buying Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system.

      Azerbaijan and Israel face similar existential threats, Azerbaijan from Armenia and Israel from Iran. Their existence is important to the US.

      The US should and must pay close attention to the Azerbaijan-Israeli relationship.

      To that end, the US is fortunate to have a new secretary of state – Rex Tillerson – who may be the bestinformed American ever to serve as our foreign minister, in particular to the Middle East-Russian and Caucasus region. Tillerson’s experience doing business with Russia and Azerbaijan is priceless in dealing with the region.

      It probably is no accident that US Gen. Joe Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently met with Russian Gen. Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Russian military’s General Staff, in Baku, Azerbaijan, of all places.

      Besides military aid, the US (and NATO) could provide military training and support to Azerbaijan. More importantly, perhaps President Trump and Secretary Tillerson can exercise our co-chairmanship of OSCE’s Minsk Group (Organization for Security and Cooperation) to end Armenia’s 25-year old invasion of Azerbaijan and occupation of one-fifth of the country.

      Peace can enrich and stabilize the entire region. So can greater US presence.

      Having a Muslim friend in a turbulent region that allows all religions (Muslim, Jewish and Christian) to co-exist is a valuable asset to the US, to Israel and the world in general. Secretary Tillerson knows this. So, too, must Russia, Armenia and Iran.

      http://m.jpost.com/Opinion/Its-time-...rbaijan-482123

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      Blatant propaganda straight from the Israeli propaganda machine.
      Narrow minded crap from the yahoody connivers.
      Such sleazy j.ew.ish govt conduct is open for all to see. Simply read the post preceding this post.
      The twisting of the truth is a shameful act Israel utilizes often.
      Disgusting jerks are what the Israeli govt is made of.
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      Russian Military Presence Still Vital For Armenia, Says Defense Chief




      Russian military presence in Armenia remains a “very important” element of the country’s national security strategy, Defense Minister Vigen Sargsian said in an interview published on Wednesday.

      Sargsian also told the RIA Novosti that Armenia stands ready to further deepen its broader military cooperation with Russia.

      “Russia is our strategic ally,” he said. “This is how we view the ongoing cooperation with Russia in terms of training of military personnel, in the military-technical sphere and in the military-political dialogue. We think that it’s an inseparable complex. We are open to and ready for a further intensification of this dialogue.”

      As part of that alliance, up to 5,000 Russian troops have been stationed in Armenia ever since the Soviet breakup. Sargsian called the Russian military base headquartered in Gyumri “an important factor of deterrence.”

      “We consider its presence in Armenia to be a very important component of the security system of our country,” he added.

      The Russian base also has hundreds of tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery systems as well as around two dozen MiG-29 fighter jets. Moscow has bolstered it with helicopter gunships and other military hardware since a 2010 Russian-Armenian agreement extended its basing rights in Armenia to 2044.

      Sargsian did not deny reports that the Russian military has also deployed its newly developed Nebo-M radar systems to the Gyumri base recently.

      Armenian leaders have long said that Armenia hosts Russian troops on its territory primarily because of a perceived security threat from Turkey, rather than Azerbaijan. From Yerevan’s perspective, the Russian military presence precludes Turkey’s direct military intervention on Azerbaijan’s side in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

      Some of the Russian troops in Armenia and an Armenian army unit make up a Russian-Armenian military force set up in 2000. Sargsian and Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu signed an agreement in November last year on reinforcing “the united group of troops.” It is still not clear whether the joint contingent will be enlarged as a result.

      The military alliance with Russia has also enabled Armenia to receive Russian weapons at discounted prices or even for free. Sargsian emphasized the fact that Yerevan is using a $200 million loan extended by Moscow in 2015 for buying various Russian weapons at Russia’s “internal prices.” Some of that military hardware has already been delivered to Armenia ahead of schedule, he said without elaborating.

      “We will continue the dialogue with the Russian side on the possibility of acquiring weapons in the Russian market,” Sargsian told RIA Novosti.

      The $200 million loan reportedly does not cover Russian state-of-the-art Iskander missiles that were supplied to the Armenian army and first demonstrated by it at a military parade in Yerevan in September. Sargsian refused to disclose financial terms of that acquisition.

      The 41-year-old minister insisted that the missile systems belong to Armenia and are operated by Armenian army officers. He described them as a “weapon of deterrence,” in a clear reference to the Karabakh dispute.

      President Serzh Sarkisian likewise said in November that the Iskander missiles are an “antidote” against Azerbaijan’s possible attempts to achieve a military solution to the dispute.

      With a firing range of at least 300 kilometers, Iskander is known for their precision and ability to overcome modern missile defense shields.

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