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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    This is much more interesting.

    https://southfront.org/new-data-reve...medium=twitter

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Hakob View Post
      Instead of criticizing of stupid unrealistic values, you better reflect on the fact that those two are grandchildren of ones that did this to our children and women. You better think of this, that we had to deal with for centuries. For children and elderly in Maragha that were burned just like this. For fiew months old kids that were held on hot stove in front of their mother.
      I am thinking of my over 100 relatives burned in building. Of a second cousin's great grandma, who's husband and two sons were beheaded on her lap.
      Of my grandpa's nightmares untill the end of his life after withnessing an Armenian mother with two daughters being burned alive in a trash container next to diner of German officer club in Aleppo by a Turk, while drunk German officers stood by and just watched.
      There is no low or high value in any reaction to the clip above. There is the reality, which have been covered from our many generation's eyes by our peaceful (weak) religion, fake human values, communism etc, etc.
      We have to make sure that every Armenian kid sees this with narrative of he/she has to know and do everything not to let this to happen to him/ her and the ones he/she loves.
      By everything, meaning everything that needs to be done. Even this exact and worse acts.
      Reality is, it does not matter if a person thinks just culture is low or high, because everybody has done it, it's just a matter of seeing the reality.
      German has burned countless alive, French too in Europe and Moscow, Russians in Galicia, galicians in Russia, whites in America in Vietnam, British in Africa, Japanese in china, Chinese in Tibet or vietnam, Hutus in Rwanda. Arabs, Turks, monghols.
      And in any moment of human history, not only in distant past.
      And also will in the future.
      Some will be ingenious in creating weapons that can Burn millions in fiew seconds and some will do it one by one.
      But every nation, society that has its eyes in future existence has sections of itself ready, willing and even eager in pushing that button for remote or missile. Striking that match.
      There is no high or low in this. There is just the humanity's one aspect that is real.
      To Burn the enemy and watch with a grin, or get burned. In our case for many centuries.
      I don't want my son to get burned... If this is what humanity is?
      I want him to strike the match when need be, but live multiply and prosper.
      Nothing that you said is an excuse to cheer the burning of people.
      Doesn't matter if they are turk/kurd/azeri/... Do you really have 0 humanity left? I hope you don't dare to call yourself a Christian...
      What unrealistic values ? Is burning people alive something normal for you ? Just because he may have been the grand(grand)son of a genocidal grandfather?
      What's the difference right now between your way of thinking and those of the Turks in 1915?

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by haydavid View Post
        Nothing that you said is an excuse to cheer the burning of people.
        Doesn't matter if they are turk/kurd/azeri/... Do you really have 0 humanity left? I hope you don't dare to call yourself a Christian...
        What unrealistic values ? Is burning people alive something normal for you ? Just because he may have been the grand(grand)son of a genocidal grandfather?
        What's the difference right now between your way of thinking and those of the Turks in 1915?
        Your naivety is extremely dangerous, it is that way of thinking that has gotten so many Armenians killed in the first place. One example is all those good ol' "humanitarians" that refused to listen to General Andranik Ozanian.
        By the way, what the hell does being Christian have to do with anything? You actually think a "Christian" has better morale values or humanity than an atheist, pagan or muslim? That claim in itself is xxxxing stupid.

        Look, no one here is saying that burning people is normal. Naturally burning people is not a good thing. But we are talking about soldiers of a nation which has been built upon the blood of my ancestors, a nation that for the past centuries has brainwashed its populace with chauvistic fascistic ideas ARE my enemies. And they do need to burn because there is no hope for them.

        As I said, they are only reaping what they themselves have sown. With Turkeys actions throughout the years, this kind of things is what awaits them. There is no pity for them.

        With their actions they have cursed themselves and the land they filled with blood of the innocent.
        I for one am not looking at those goatxxxxers as 2 individuals, but 2 turkish warriors. I can see nothing but 2 soldiers of a Turkic nation who if given the order would burn Armenians without any hesitation. Why do I make this assumption you ask? Because they xxxxing did it in the past, and have not show any remorse. Thats xxxxing why. So please, take your stupid pity and naivety and use it in the parts of the world that have not seen war and what cruelty and evil Turks are capable of.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Vishap90 View Post
          Your naivety is extremely dangerous, it is that way of thinking that has gotten so many Armenians killed in the first place. One example is all those good ol' "humanitarians" that refused to listen to General Andranik Ozanian.
          By the way, what the hell does being Christian have to do with anything? You actually think a "Christian" has better morale values or humanity than an atheist, pagan or muslim? That claim in itself is xxxxing stupid.

          Look, no one here is saying that burning people is normal. Naturally burning people is not a good thing. But we are talking about soldiers of a nation which has been built upon the blood of my ancestors, a nation that for the past centuries has brainwashed its populace with chauvistic fascistic ideas ARE my enemies. And they do need to burn because there is no hope for them.

          As I said, they are only reaping what they themselves have sown. With Turkeys actions throughout the years, this kind of things is what awaits them. There is no pity for them.

          With their actions they have cursed themselves and the land they filled with blood of the innocent.
          I for one am not looking at those goatxxxxers as 2 individuals, but 2 turkish warriors. I can see nothing but 2 soldiers of a Turkic nation who if given the order would burn Armenians without any hesitation. Why do I make this assumption you ask? Because they xxxxing did it in the past, and have not show any remorse. Thats xxxxing why. So please, take your stupid pity and naivety and use it in the parts of the world that have not seen war and what cruelty and evil Turks are capable of.
          Are these two soldiers the same soldiers who helped perepetrate the genocide 100 years ago? No, they aren't. By hating and wishing death upon them for simply being Turkish, you become no better than those that killed our ancestors a hundred years ago. Personally, I think what happened to those two is completely xxxxed, and I fail to see how you cannot even have a little sympathy.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Achemish View Post
            Are these two soldiers the same soldiers who helped perepetrate the genocide 100 years ago? No, they aren't. By hating and wishing death upon them for simply being Turkish, you become no better than those that killed our ancestors a hundred years ago. Personally, I think what happened to those two is completely xxxxed, and I fail to see how you cannot even have a little sympathy.
            They represent the false turkish state which was built on genocide of other peoples and a tool of their evil doings. They would do the same to you and your family.
            What's so hard to understand?

            anyway, back to topic please. This bs is getting out of hand.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Vishap90 View Post
              Your naivety is extremely dangerous, it is that way of thinking that has gotten so many Armenians killed in the first place. One example is all those good ol' "humanitarians" that refused to listen to General Andranik Ozanian.
              By the way, what the hell does being Christian have to do with anything? You actually think a "Christian" has better morale values or humanity than an atheist, pagan or muslim? That claim in itself is xxxxing stupid.

              Look, no one here is saying that burning people is normal. Naturally burning people is not a good thing. But we are talking about soldiers of a nation which has been built upon the blood of my ancestors, a nation that for the past centuries has brainwashed its populace with chauvistic fascistic ideas ARE my enemies. And they do need to burn because there is no hope for them.

              As I said, they are only reaping what they themselves have sown. With Turkeys actions throughout the years, this kind of things is what awaits them. There is no pity for them.

              With their actions they have cursed themselves and the land they filled with blood of the innocent.
              I for one am not looking at those goatxxxxers as 2 individuals, but 2 turkish warriors. I can see nothing but 2 soldiers of a Turkic nation who if given the order would burn Armenians without any hesitation. Why do I make this assumption you ask? Because they xxxxing did it in the past, and have not show any remorse. Thats xxxxing why. So please, take your stupid pity and naivety and use it in the parts of the world that have not seen war and what cruelty and evil Turks are capable of.
              What naivety ? It's you who are full of hate and cannot see past it.
              You are contradicting yourself. First you say that burning people is not right , is not normal but if they are turk it's ok?
              Again I ask you , what's the difference between you and the turks you hate?
              You are not getting my point also. I'm not saying that we should feel sorry for turkish SOLDIERS to die. Yes , like any soldier , they chose their path and knew the dangers. One of them was even an undercover agent who was with them for some time.
              Hundreds of foreign soldiers could die in wars and I wouldn't say a word because it's war. But burning people , that's just something I wouldn't wish to my worst enemies.

              I'm feeling weird to even have to explain things like this ...

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by haydavid View Post
                What naivety ? It's you who are full of hate and cannot see past it.
                You are contradicting yourself. First you say that burning people is not right , is not normal but if they are turk it's ok?
                Again I ask you , what's the difference between you and the turks you hate?
                You are not getting my point also. I'm not saying that we should feel sorry for turkish SOLDIERS to die. Yes , like any soldier , they chose their path and knew the dangers. One of them was even an undercover agent who was with them for some time.
                Hundreds of foreign soldiers could die in wars and I wouldn't say a word because it's war. But burning people , that's just something I wouldn't wish to my worst enemies.

                I'm feeling weird to even have to explain things like this ...
                I agree 100% dont care at all about Turkey losing two soldiers but im not going to watch them burn to death with joy.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Whats interesting is that some of you Armenians on this page are so humanitarian . I don't think you understand anything about war. I dont think you understand anything about survival . These Turkish rats who were burnt alive deserve the treatment they got . They are soldiers entering enemy territory. They were captured and the punishment bestowed unto them was "Charcoal". We have learnt that International Law does not mean a single thing when the Armenian Genocide is ignored. We have learnt that Armenia means nothing to the world and our call for Justice falls silent for Coalition purposes . We also have learnt even cutting humans heads off (Yezidi Armenian soldier) would be ignored . So lets bend over shall we, and get the Turkish punishment of a pole right between were the sun don't shine . Armenians got to get off the "Ellen Liberal high horse" and take a look at who they actually are. We are an endangered race were our only survival is being more gruesome then the enemy . When a Turkish rat soldier dies it is a call for celebration , when he is killed by Hell Fire we shall raise a glass and honor that killing . It is about time Turkey got back it's treatment that it inflicted on my people . What makes me sick is the fact that they burnt so many Armenians alive in churches and you few secular refugees who have become light hearted forget the torments of the past. Your'e basically spitting on your history. Your'e basically telling us that we don't need soldiers on our borders, hell you are basically telling us to take the pole treatment because we are going to be "GENTLEMEN AND CIVILIZED" . Armenians cannot be what the West advertises. We are a nation surrounded by beasts and our "Civilized Gentleman Liberal Secular" ways who some are preaching here, could be our biggest down fall . Our hearts should be like stone . It is branded on our souls . I still believe the Secular rats will give me a quote from that lesbian Ellen. An Armenian who is really a patriotic should laugh at the Turkish soldiers being burnt . Why would you not love to see the destruction of your enemy . He was sworn in to serve a Genocidal nation and as a Turkish soldier I am sure he had no love for Armenia . Let him die . "Hey , stop hogging on the Popcorn".
                  Last edited by ASALA2116; 12-23-2016, 01:19 PM.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Yeah sure , put words in mouth. It seems like you guys can't even read , your hatred is making you blind even for fellow Armenians.
                    You can't even think past the 'us vs them' logic that it's scary.
                    I said that burning people , no matter who they are should not be cheered and what do you see ? " Your'e basically spitting on your history. Your'e basically telling us that we don't need soldiers on our borders, hell you are basically telling us to take the pole treatment" I'm a traitor right , I should be burnt to death too maybe to make you happy?

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Could we stop this BS of what is or is not moral?
                      I am not sure what is the difference when azeri turks use TOS-1M on our people? Distance helps? as in they did not do it in a primitive way? As in they cheered from distance of our people's death is acceptable?

                      War is hell. Either you win or you are fked. There is no in between.

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