The Ottomans

[TomServo]

Re: The Ottomans

You were still posting in this thread that you find so tedious and have a history of doing so.

Don't like that I pointed that out? Too bad.

[Eddo211]

Re: The Ottomans

You were still posting in this thread that you find so tedious and have a history of doing so.

I told you why

Don't like that I pointed that out? Too bad.

I don't mind.....you can say what you want but why you complain when you get a response?
This thread Yawn.....Ottoman s are the Turks.

[TomServo]

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I told you why

I don't mind.....you can say what you want but why you complain when you get a response?
This thread Yawn.....Ottoman s are the Turks.

If you don't like this thread then cease posting instead of acting as though the conversation is beneath you.

But having read your "bullshyt-calling outs," I must admit that they do indeed elicit many yawns (and groans).

[Eddo211]

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No, I will call bullsh!t as it is, debunking everything again is borring......whats interesting is WHY you get so worked up over it, you like the Ottomans?

[lampron]

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Although the Ottomans brought disaster to Armenia we can also learn from them

What Ottoman policy decisions enabled them to become a superpower?

What Armenian policy decisions resulted in Armenia losing its position as the prominent entity in central and eastern Anatolia ?

[Artashes]

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Although the Ottomans brought disaster to Armenia we can also learn from them

What Ottoman policy decisions enabled them to become a superpower?

What Armenian policy decisions resulted in Armenia losing its position as the prominent entity in central and eastern Anatolia ?

There is nothing about the autojerk to emulate. --- nothing ---.
They were a nomad murdering and thieving group. Opportunistic thieves who used murder and torture and fear.
Autojerk policy ? The lowlife scum didn't have a ?policy? If you are talking about their using fear via murder and torture, then there is nothing to learn. If your talking about invading multitudes of countries and commiting murder and torture to take the wealth of the invaded countries, again that's not a ?policy?, but a criminal act committed against --- ALL --- they invaded. Not something to learn or emulate.
If your are talking about the willingness of Europe or anyone else to deal with the murdering thieves and access all the stolen wealth for --- their benifit --- birds of a feather as bothe are conniving for their sole benifit no matter the demise of their nieghbor. Nothing to emulate by either.
Yes, Armenia had faults. But to take that out of context and ignore the continuous assaults Armenia has suffered over the last 3,000 years (at least) is a narrow view at best.
Al Capone was an infamous gangster who murdered freely and become very wealthy. What ? You want to study his policy too ???
The autojerk became wealthy and successful by murder and theft of all the surrounding people's and found willing business partners in the likes of Europe , etc to share in the stolen wealth.
That's a case study for psychiatry, not something to glean an honest viable working model for a nations conduct.

[lampron]

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There is nothing about the autojerk to emulate. --- nothing ---.
They were a nomad murdering and thieving group. Opportunistic thieves who used murder and torture and fear.
Autojerk policy ? The lowlife scum didn't have a ?policy? If you are talking about their using fear via murder and torture, then there is nothing to learn. .

you are mistaken!

Yes many of them were desert herdsmen from Central Asia, primitive, cruel and illiterate. But quickly they adapted to their new environment in Anatolia and the Balkans

Mehmed II the Conqueror is said to have spoken seven languages!

The Ottomans were good at hiring the top engineers, shipbuilders, navigators of the day from Europe and building up the Ottoman navy to attack the Italian coast and North Africa

J*ews expelled from Spain were invited to Istanbul and Izmir. Why? Because the Ottomans realized they could benefit from their knowledge and experience in trade, finance, medicine...

[Artashes]

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you are mistaken!

Yes many of them were desert herdsmen from Central Asia, primitive, cruel and illiterate. But quickly they adapted to their new environment in Anatolia and the Balkans

Mehmed II the Conqueror is said to have spoken seven languages!

The Ottomans were good at hiring the top engineers, shipbuilders, navigators of the day from Europe and building up the Ottoman navy to attack the Italian coast and North Africa

J*ews expelled from Spain were invited to Istanbul and Izmir. Why? Because the Ottomans realized they could benefit from their knowledge and experience in trade, finance, medicine...

To be a cunning --- opportunistic MURDERING thief --- is not something to emulate or fashion a national policy by.
The worthless , heartless scum you refer to was a criminal of the worst sort and nothing more.
The lack of humanity's pursuit of honor is not something to hold up high and praise.
Monsanto multinational corp is highly successful by the current standards of our pathetic world.
Their intentions and the way they attained their wealth is not something anyone should teach their children or countrymen to praise. On the contrary.
To be a successful manipulator , is not something of honor.
You can talk that utter nonsense amongst the turcs you live with, and over the Internet. But I dought you'll get far in Greece or Hayastan , or any other place the murdering thieves were driven out.
You are praising a criminal and his criminal actions.
The turcs are a criminal interprise of many centuries and nothing more.
Your fishing in the toilet.

[Azad]

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What Ottoman policy decisions enabled them to become a superpower?

You cannot compare the two. One is based on monoculturalism the other is forced expansionism parasitic multiculturalism.

[Artashes]

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You cannot compare the two. One is based on monoculturalism the other is forced expansionism parasitic multiculturalism.

---- parasitic ----
A most appropriate term for both turc & kerd.