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U are so right armenia could be united and strong country stronger than the past times even now days and the days that will come,the maine reson that genocide hapend,
Ataturk planed for the future not for the past time.
Turkyes politicians are continuing that cind policy from back in Ottoman Empire.
Major porblem that others country have is the change of stance very often.
Stabiliti in there political life give them more power than they may had.
Why couldn't Armenians create a sustaining, lasting and large empire to this day?
Was it just bad luck?
1. All long lasting nations have realized that war and killing is bullxxxx, god gave us the ability to speak for a reason. Only barbarians fight to pillage, steal land and assimilate the poor people to slavery.
2. History tells us that big empires usually are not longlasting. Most big empires have either been destroyed, conquered or split into regions.
3. It was bad planning not to take caucasian albania and keep it that way. Instead Armenia wasted all its best men to fight and landgrab over the middle east with strong opponents that was 100% sure to win back this land sooner or later due to growth and population. If we would have reinforced those occupied lands bordering with Armenia, no muslim and no "turk" would be able to steal it from us.
4. Due to the landgrabbing and greed, the losses severly harmed the Armenian growth and population and this sent us down the spiral to nothing, well atleast nothing. We still have a country and thats more than enough to be proud of.
5. Why are you writing (Couldn't)? There is no end of time. Armenia has a large diaspora and a big commitment to restore the former glory of the
Country.
So, this was not bad luck, it was just bad planning. But it's real easy to look back and say what went wrong, but living during that time sure is something else. Imagine being able to grab your own land, if this still was possible today every nation would collapse and we would go back to a modernized feudal age.
It is stupid to claim, armenians surpassed byzantium, romans, persians or egyptians. Yes, You survived longer than them but monkeys survived more than you too..
No one used the word "surpass", but surpass also means to outlive. Other than that, Byzantium's greatest emperors were Armenian. If it weren't for Armenians, Byzantines probably wouldn't have defeated the Bulgars (Basil II), Persians (Heraclius), Goths (general Narses), Arabs (Romanos & general Gurgen), Kieven Rus (John Tzimiskes), the list goes on and on. I am not even mentioning the cultural contributions to Byzantium, or the cultural contributions of Armenians in general.
Originally posted by SoyElTurco
Thats actually pretty clever. There are archaic bacteria that have survived to this day. I guess the higher you up the ladder in evolution, the shorter your stay is.
According to your logic, Hitler, Timur the Lame and Attila the Hun, due to their short but powerful reigns, belonged to the highest echelon of evolution. One of them killed himself, another couldn't walk straight and the third was an alcoholic who choked on his own vomit after a night of drinking--- and the only legacy each of them left behind was the murder of millions.
Anyways, I think Armenian, Federate and Hye Psycho gave essential points to the original question.
Thats actually pretty clever. There are archaic bacteria that have survived to this day. I guess the higher you up the ladder in evolution, the shorter your stay is. So the equation is civilizations last short durations and eventually go extinct and primative species on the low end of the ladder stay for as long as time.
I think this kind of back and forth is useless as you could see.
How long will this insulting go on till the mods do their job. You let the Turks stay and this is what they do. And the mods are saying we shouldn't insult them
The turk argument in this forum is flawed. Likely due to the fact that they aknowledge yet have difficulty digesting the fact that our civilization has not only been greater and longer-lived but also more productive and has contributed more to this world than empire and war.
We are comparing civilizations not Species...... Such comparisons cannot be externally applied. You can compare the perseverance of one troop of monkeys with that of another of the same species but not monkey to human and vice versa.
Except Turkish text books wouldn't teach you this. Rather they teach you to have some sort of homophobic attachment to Mustapha Ata xxxx head
Haha okey. I accept, armenian contributed more than romans, persians, egpytian. Even more than china or britain.
Hmm,nationalism always makes people blind to reality. You are a small nation and noone will be aware If your all nation extinct and you are not only one who built some structure..
The turk argument in this forum is flawed. Likely due to the fact that they aknowledge yet have difficulty digesting the fact that our civilization has not only been greater and longer-lived but also more productive and has contributed more to this world than empire and war.
We are comparing civilizations not Species...... Such comparisons cannot be externally applied. You can compare the perseverance of one troop of monkeys with that of another of the same species but not monkey to human and vice versa.
Except Turkish text books wouldn't teach you this. Rather they teach you to have some sort of homophobic attachment to Mustapha Ata xxxx head
Thats actually pretty clever. There are archaic bacteria that have survived to this day. I guess the higher you up the ladder in evolution, the shorter your stay is. So the equation is civilizations last short durations and eventually go extinct and primative species on the low end of the ladder stay for as long as time.
Hey, It is not a big problem. Your nation can survive more than mine.
but do you compete with monkeys too? Personaly, I dont compare my nation with monkeys.
Thats actually pretty clever. There are archaic bacteria that have survived to this day. I guess the higher you up the ladder in evolution, the shorter your stay is. So the equation is civilizations last short durations and eventually go extinct and primative species on the low end of the ladder stay for as long as time.
I think this kind of back and forth is useless as you could see.
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