Origin of Armenian Surnames

[LebHye]

Pareve,
I'm not sure if it's the right place to ask this question.
However, I know that the "ian" at the end of an Armenian surname means "the son of".
The problem is my great grandfather's surname is Ordakian and i couldn't find the meaning of ORDAK. Please, if anybody has any idea on this family name origin, meaning or anything, tell me.
Chenorhagalem.

[Federate]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Pareve,
I'm not sure if it's the right place to ask this question.
However, I know that the "ian" at the end of an Armenian surname means "the son of".
The problem is my great grandfather's surname is Ordakian and i couldn't find the meaning of ORDAK. Please, if anybody has any idea on this family name origin, meaning or anything, tell me.
Chenorhagalem.

Ördek in Turkish means "duck". So your last name could be a modified form of that word that implies that somewhere down the line, your grandfather might've been some kind of duck farmer or something. This is just a guess.

Perhaps Seruven could elaborate.

[seruven]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Ördek in Turkish means "duck". So your last name could be a modified form of that word that implies that somewhere down the line, your grandfather might've been some kind of duck farmer or something. This is just a guess.

I agree with Fed. Ordakian pretty much sounds like Ördekian. You pronounce the first "a" like "e", right?

[LebHye]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Originally Posted by Federate
Ördek in Turkish means "duck". So your last name could be a modified form of that word that implies that somewhere down the line, your grandfather might've been some kind of duck farmer or something. This is just a guess.

Thank u Federate and Seruven.

And i don't really know how it's pronouced, i don't even know how to speak in Amrenian, i just know a couple of basic words.

[ara87]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

(I may have asked this before but i don't remember)

I have a last name I'm curious about too, "Ardhuerumly." It was the last name of an American girl i met, who called herself "princess jasmine" b/c she was an "Arabian" princess.

Her grandfather (or great grandfather?) was from Erzerum and moved here in the 60's and supposedly of high stature in the community. She's very white looking, blue eyes, blonde hair, and her father is a baptist minister, so I doubt they're turks, but she says they're not armos and their last name doesn't sound armo, could they be persian or something?

[Gavur]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Its a corrupted way of saying Erzurumlu, meaning one from Erzurum, could be changed from Erzurumluyan or whiteness and beauty is usually attributes of Circassians in that region .

[Moogey]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Its a corrupted way of saying Erzurumlu, meaning one from Erzurum, could be changed from Erzurumluyan or whiteness and beauty is usually attributes of Circassians in that region .

That's really fascinating. Hope we'll have more surnames and origins. Mine was Chahbaz (sometimes spelt Shahbazian, etc) and I followed some suggestions a while ago, but more may come up. Oh what a tangled web....

[Yedtarts]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

That's really fascinating. Hope we'll have more surnames and origins. Mine was Chahbaz (sometimes spelt Shahbazian, etc) and I followed some suggestions a while ago, but more may come up. Oh what a tangled web....

My mother comes from Shahbaz or Shahbazian family; they say it was a noble’s family name, originly they were from Ani, they scaped to Cilicia and now it’s a village in north-westen Syria, called “Yacoubieh” later on they were called “Kassis” translated to Armenian it’s “Yeretsian”

[Gavur]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Shahbaz (Persian: شَهباز) is the name of one special kind of bird, like the eagle or hawk. It is bigger than a hawk or falcon. The shahbaz lived in the Zagros, Alborz, and Ghafghaz mountains, famous mountains of Iran.

Shahbaz literally means 'king of falcons' or 'royal falcon'

Shahbaz is a fabled Bird. In old Persian mythology, Shahbaz is a god who helped the Iranians and guided Farvahar to Iran zamin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz

Heres one definition

[Lucin]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Shahbaz (Persian: شَهباز) is the name of one special kind of bird, like the eagle or hawk. It is bigger than a hawk or falcon. The shahbaz lived in the Zagros, Alborz, and Ghafghaz mountains, famous mountains of Iran.

Shahbaz literally means 'king of falcons' or 'royal falcon'

Shahbaz is a fabled Bird. In old Persian mythology, Shahbaz is a god who helped the Iranians and guided Farvahar to Iran zamin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz

Heres one definition

This is true. Shahbaz is a common surename among the Iranians as well as Shahbazian. Though Shahbaz is used as a first name too.

Ördek in Turkish means "duck". So your last name could be a modified form of that word that implies that somewhere down the line, your grandfather might've been some kind of duck farmer or something. This is just a guess.

Perhaps Seruven could elaborate.

Actually, ordak is a Persian word, meaning duck. So the 'Turkish' Ördek is a distorted form of the Persian Ordak, just like many of their words...