Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

[Icy]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

Were Armenians also Zoroastrianist before Christianism?

Ya, but we became the first nation to accept Christianity as our religion
in 301 A.D, but if you're from Turkey it might be different in your books, for
example it might state "Armenians only became Christian to show the Westerners that they share something in common, it's pure propaganda."

[Army]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

Ya, but we became the first nation to accept Christianity as our religion
in 301 A.D, but if you're from Turkey it might be different in your books, for
example it might state "Armenians only became Christian to show the Westerners that they share something in common, it's pure propaganda."

I did not get my education there. However, at schools, they do not teach anything about it.

Here is a simple scheme of middle school history as I saw:

- Prehistoric Anatolia
- Stoneage, Iron Age etc
- History of Anatolia (Ionians, Lydians, Urartus, Meds etc)
- Pre-Islamic Turkish history in Central Asia (Gokturs, Uyghurs etc)
- The immigration to the west
- Some Roman history
- Islamic history (first 50-60 years of Islam probably)
- Umayyids and Abbasids
- Turks after Islam (Several Turkish-Persian states)
- Seljuks (Great & Anatolian)
- Ottomans
- Renascence, Age of Discovery etc
- World War I
- Early Republic

[Icy]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

I did not get my education there. However, at schools, they do not teach anything about it.

Here is a simple scheme of middle school history as I saw:

- Prehistoric Anatolia
- Stoneage, Iron Age etc
- History of Anatolia (Ionians, Lydians, Urartus, Meds etc)
- Pre-Islamic Turkish history in Central Asia (Gokturs, Uyghurs etc)
- The immigration to the west
- Some Roman history
- Islamic history (first 50-60 years of Islam probably)
- Umayyids and Abbasids
- Turks after Islam (Several Turkish-Persian states)
- Seljuks (Great & Anatolian)
- Ottomans
- Renascence, Age of Discovery etc
- World War I
- Early Republic

It's kind of ironic that pretty much the rest of the world knows the Armenian Genocide happend and that turkey is guilty for it, but when it comes to the turkish people they all seem very narrow minded and believe somewhat the same thing that the AG did not happen. Why can't you or your people own up to what you did, the Germans killed 6 million joos they owned up to it, hell they planned a location for the joos to live in ex: Palestine. Why doesn't turkey accept it, because they are cowards, they think that by setting history asside, and injecting the population with propaganda will solve everything, but we all know it won't. See my theory on liers is that, when you lie, that lie becomes into a bigger lie to cover up the old lie, and it just keeps growing and growing, till finally it explodes. We will all see the day that happens to Turkey.

[karoaper]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

I did not get my education there. However, at schools, they do not teach anything about it.

Here is a simple scheme of middle school history as I saw:

- Prehistoric Anatolia
- Stoneage, Iron Age etc
- History of Anatolia (Ionians, Lydians, Urartus, Meds etc)
- Pre-Islamic Turkish history in Central Asia (Gokturs, Uyghurs etc)
- The immigration to the west
- Some Roman history
- Islamic history (first 50-60 years of Islam probably)
- Umayyids and Abbasids
- Turks after Islam (Several Turkish-Persian states)
- Seljuks (Great & Anatolian)
- Ottomans
- Renascence, Age of Discovery etc
- World War I
- Early Republic

troll alert! Uyghurs in Anatolia? possibly turkish troll alert. Or maybe just a dimwit on Meds.

[Army]

???? Theres no troll. And if you could understand what you read, you would see that in that post of mine, Uyghurs come after a sentence ending with CENTRAL ASIA.

......and God bless Wikipedia, it saves my time -that I'd spent on explaining Medes to a kid-:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

It was like a Pyrrhic victory for us. We lost the battle but we won our right to our religion and autonomy.

Whay you are describing is the opposite of a Pyrrhic victory: the battle was lost but the war was won.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

......and God bless Wikipedia, it saves my time -that I'd spent on explaining Medes to a kid-:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

I doubt it. Any article that attracts both Iranian trolls and Kurd trolls is unlikely to be accurate.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

I did not get my education there. However, at schools, they do not teach anything about it.

Here is a simple scheme of middle school history as I saw:

- Prehistoric Anatolia
- Stoneage, Iron Age etc
- History of Anatolia (Ionians, Lydians, Urartus, Meds etc)
- Pre-Islamic Turkish history in Central Asia (Gokturs, Uyghurs etc)
- The immigration to the west
- Some Roman history
- Islamic history (first 50-60 years of Islam probably)
- Umayyids and Abbasids
- Turks after Islam (Several Turkish-Persian states)
- Seljuks (Great & Anatolian)
- Ottomans
- Renascence, Age of Discovery etc
- World War I
- Early Republic

I'm looking for Turkish material that claims a Turkish origin for the Urartians. I know it is not a current claim, but it was popularised in the 1930s and went on well into the 1970s and 80s.

[Army]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

I doubt it. Any article that attracts both Iranian trolls and Kurd trolls is unlikely to be accurate.

Yes! There are lots of Persian trolls. They claim everyone has Persian roots

I'm looking for Turkish material that claims a Turkish origin for the Urartians. I know it is not a current claim, but it was popularised in the 1930s and went on well into the 1970s and 80s.

Yes, not popular now and I dont think any new publications tell about this theory. I think you need to know Turkish to read any sources about it. Probably no one translated them into English.

[Gavur]

Re: Who is Vasag (or Vasak) Syuni (or Syunik)

???? Theres no troll. And if you could understand what you read, you would see that in that post of mine, Uyghurs come after a sentence ending with CENTRAL ASIA.

......and God bless Wikipedia, it saves my time -that I'd spent on explaining Medes to a kid-:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

Yeah, Medes is tough one to explain, as well as Parthians also Babylonians. Speaking of Babylonians. I read somewhere that Hayk from the house of Torghom lived in Babylon which was under the rule of Nimrod (Baal) and the house of Torghom were translators Targhmanich,Torghmanich)to the Babylonian empire from father to son.
For some reason one day, Hayk picks up and leaves with his clan, and Nimrod pursues after him because people could not understand each other anymore.So there's kaos and work stoppage in the empire and we all know what happened after that. Hayk pierces Nimrods heart with hes arrow from a distance and, Haykagan's stay in whats called Armenia from that day on in the land of milk and honey. Untill...

Well you know the rest.