Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

[Osttruppen]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

Armenisch Reich?

know what it means?

[Wind]

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Persians, Pashtoons and Tajiks (another name for Persans) are actually Nordic.

See here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/48776...ns+and+Afghans

Interesting, thanks for the link.

[Shahanshah]

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Well, Armenians arent Iranic (they are not an Iranian peoples), therefore, they arent Aryan (the real term "Aryan" is not the same as the Nazi "Aryan". The term Aryan has been used to refer to Iranics, but because the Nazis introduced their racist term, scholars now use the term Iranian or Iranic to refer to Aryan peoples).

Armenians are Indo-Europeans, but they arent Aryans, as they are not of the Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans, they are of the Caucasian branch of Indo Europeans.

By the way, do not listen to Oslonor, he is a pan Turk spreading his racist ideology all over the internet (Hm...I'm wondering why he isnt banned and why his posts have not been deleted.)

[Armenian]

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Armenians are Indo-Europeans, but they arent Aryans, as they are not of the Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans, they are of the Caucasian branch of Indo Europeans.

Not quite right. The Armenian and Iranian languages are from the same Indo-European sub-root. As a matter of fact the Iranian language has evolved from proto-Armenian, and proto-Iranian tribes originated within the Armenian Highlands. Also, Armenians are only 'partially' Caucasian. Historic Armenia, from 2500BC to 1915AD, comprised most of eastern Anatolia, northern Mesopotamia and the southern Caucasus with the heartland being the region of Van. Only now has Armenia been 'pushed' into the Caucasus.

By the way, do not listen to Oslonor, he is a pan Turk spreading his racist ideology all over the internet (Hm...I'm wondering why he isnt banned and why his posts have not been deleted.)

I don't think there is a single person here that takes the idiot in question seriously.

[Shahanshah]

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Not quite right. The Armenian and Iranian languages are from the same Indo-European sub-root. As a matter of fact the Iranian language has evolved from proto-Armenian, and proto-Iranian tribes originated within the Armenian Highlands.

Actually, I dont think there is any linguistic similarity between Iranic languages and Armenian other than the Indo European connection. Atleast I never heard of it.

Armenian was thought of as an Iranian language for a long time, because of the vast amount of Iranian influence on it during the Parthian, Sassanid, etc... era's, but it was later determined that it is its own distinct branch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_language

Also, Armenians are only 'partially' Caucasian. Historic Armenia, from 2500BC to 1915AD, comprised most of eastern Anatolia, northern Mesopotamia and the southern Caucasus with the heartland being the region of Van. Only now has Armenia been 'pushed' into the Caucasus.

True.

[Iranianazeri]

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Those who called themselves aryans were the indo-iranians speaking peoples of asia.

The white supremacists took the name and started to call themselves aryan after thousands of years. For them it was race, you had to look nordic. They considered themselves the only "pure" indoeuropeans.

[Armenian]

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Actually, I dont think there is any linguistic similarity between Iranic languages and Armenian other than the Indo European connection. Atleast I never heard of it.

Indo European language tree: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftB...tration122.jpg

Indo European Homeland: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftB...tration130.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftB...tration130.jpg

Source: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftB...onicle120.html

[Shahanshah]

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So your saying that Armenians are an Iranian people?

I know that Armenians and Iranians share a lot of history and culture, and that Armenians and Iranians have generally been close, but I didnt know that Armenians feel that they were part of the Iranic sub group of Indo-Europeans.

[Armenian]

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So your saying that Armenians are an Iranian people? I know that Armenians and Iranians share a lot of history and culture, and that Armenians and Iranians have generally been close, but I didnt know that Armenians feel that they were part of the Iranic sub group of Indo-Europeans.

No, I'm saying that ancient Iranians are an Armenian people. This is fact, as far as I'm concerned. Your forefathers originated within the Armenian Highlands, as a result they were proto-Armenians. And your language is of the same subbranch as the Armenian language. Armenian national historiography goes back well over four thousand five hundred years. However, after the fall of the Urartian Armenian empire (approximately mid sixth century BC), Armenia began to be heavily influenced by Persia for several hundred years.

[sev_zeytun]

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Just curious, but, which would you guys say is older (if it's even possible to assume or even guess): Armenians, Greeks, Romans, or Persians? Again, just curious.

BTW Armenian: thanks for the tree and stuff. It was useful and cool.