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  • #11
    Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

    Interesting...

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    • #12
      Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

      actually after hitler found out about armenia's aryan roots he began to praise armenians and hitler was the one who began to classify us as indo-european. Go read armenism-aryanism, thats the book that convinced Nazi leaders that we are aryan. After that Hitler was gna give armenia land back from turkey.

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      • #13
        Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

        Originally posted by skhara
        I was hoping you knew of some online resource that would give information regarding this. I wouldn't even know where to start looking for this book.



        Ok then please ask your Russian stormfront buddies who found it, to forward you the info if they could and pass it along.



        What about Azerbaijan? As far as I know Azeris were also in NAZI units.
        I can tell one more thing, during the war as conditions were changing Germans have changed the name of the plan too, in German archives Abrahamyan has found the name "Gertrud", but he wrote in the book that operation has been renamed for several times.
        About azeris I dont know, but Germans needed a straight control of Baku's oil...
        Azeris have never had citizenship of Reich, I mean passports with stamp "Aryan", but we Armenians had it...
        There were azeri units, but an azeri soldier could never get married to a German woman, so I think they were used just as manpower.

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        • #14
          Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

          Wake up, all Soviet POWs who were allowed to serve were used just as manpower.

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          • #15
            Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

            Originally posted by skhara
            This is why its improtant to establism what year they made that plan? While Bulgaria was an axis nation, Greece was not.

            Just what army of Greeks would have been at the German disposal? At the time there was an extremely brutal isurection going on in Greece aimed at the German occupation. Greeks and Serbs were greatly responsible for the woes of the Third Reich's imperialist ambitions.

            After the expulsion of the German forces from Greece, the Greek partisans went on to publicly hang women who had affairs with occupying Germans with signs reading "Prositute".
            Operation "Gertrud" was planned for 1943, but as we know Germans failed in Stalingrad...
            Germans have designed that after the Blitzkrieg, in 1943 Soviets would be almost destroyed, or withdrawed to far East, Armenia and Georgia would gain independance, with German support they would collect regular army on the base of Armenian and Georgian Legions in Wehrmacht, Alfred Rosenberg, German Reichsminister of occupied territories have met members of Armenian National Assembly in 1941, before the war would start, and they had something like agreement.

            Greece was occupied by Germans but Greeks weren't only partisans, there were big Army units of Greek Right Wing supporters, and I repeat Germans were planing it for 1943, as they were thinking that Soviets would be almost done, and they were planing to place in Greece a pro-German government, so...

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            • #16
              Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

              Originally posted by D3ADSY
              Wake up, all Soviet POWs who were allowed to serve were used just as manpower.
              ...but kirgizs, chechens, azeris, tatars, russians (till 1943), and other non Aryans were'nt allowed to marry Aryan women.

              Photo of an Armenian Legioner with his Dutch wife(Dutch weren't just Aryans for Germans, they were Germanic people...)
              Last edited by Osttruppen; 03-11-2007, 07:18 AM.

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              • #17
                Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

                Hroape, why would you want to be praised JUST for your Aryan roots?

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                • #18
                  Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

                  Osstrupen, you didn't understand what I asked I think. I asked what year the operation was planned? 1943 is what you already said -- I mean did they plan it in 1937, in 1941? When was the plan made is my question.

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                  • #19
                    Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

                    Originally posted by skhara
                    Osstrupen, you didn't understand what I asked I think. I asked what year the operation was planned? 1943 is what you already said -- I mean did they plan it in 1937, in 1941? When was the plan made is my question.
                    I answered your question "In 1941 members of Armenian Assembly(or Union) met German Reichsminister Alfred Rosenberg, they had an agreement". Germans promised that when German forces liberate Armenia and Georgia this two nations would become independance, Armenians and Georgians had to help Germans during the war, after liberation of Armenia and Georgia with support of Germans there would be formed Armenian and Georgian Armies on the base of Armenian and Georgian Legions, and than like Rosenberg has said "Armenians will have a chance to liberate their Fatherland with the support of German Reich".

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                    • #20
                      Re: Hitler's plan to invade tURKEY...

                      Originally posted by Osttruppen
                      I answered your question "In 1941 members of Armenian Assembly(or Union) met German Reichsminister Alfred Rosenberg, they had an agreement". Germans promised that when German forces liberate Armenia and Georgia this two nations would become independance, Armenians and Georgians had to help Germans during the war, after liberation of Armenia and Georgia with support of Germans there would be formed Armenian and Georgian Armies on the base of Armenian and Georgian Legions, and than like Rosenberg has said "Armenians will have a chance to liberate their Fatherland with the support of German Reich".

                      First, the fact that it was in 1941 already makes me skeptical about the Greek aspect because there was already an insurgency going on against German and Italian forces.

                      Also, do you know what month this meeting took place? I am assuming it was before the commencement of Operatio Barberrosa, but was it before Operation Punishment?

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