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  • #61
    Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

    I think Armenians are really exagerating the whole issue. What happened is not a big thing, ethnic Americans, ethnic xxxs, ethnic Dutch commit fraud worth billions of dollars, it's what happens everyday everywhere in the world.

    It's stupid that the Armenian media covers this story in the amount they do now, but it has it's reasons. Have you ever thought about why Armenians are getting bashed and why it's not a normal crime, but an Armenian crime?

    It's because the persons who are leading the media, who control the media (especially in America), want to give Armenians a bad name. They are fiercly anti-Armenian and ofcourse, it has political means.

    I am especially angry at the Armenian government for apologizing, because it's not their job to apologize for individuels. I have never read the Dutch government apologize for Dutch criminals abroad, or the Russian government apologizing for Russian criminals working in America, it's just an outrage, as if the Republic of Armenia is involved in it.

    And Kasparian is just a Turk pretending to be an Armenian, nothing more nothing less. And I secretly found it interesting the way the scam worked. But ah, Armenians are good in what they do, even if they are criminals. I am not ashamed, not even one milli-second.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 10-21-2010, 09:10 AM.

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    • #62
      Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

      Current ArticleCelebrating a Noble and Gentle Armenian

      By Nubar Dorian

      The wars, wounds, suffering and strife followed by the Armenian Genocide forced many millions and more survivors to seek food and shelter in other lands. The US has been the ideal refuge and Armenians were able to reach these blessed shores to take advantage of all the opportunities available to them. Though helpless and friendless, they were able to prove their noble character, studiousness and determination to become ideal citizens in this blessed land. When they raised their voices to sing God Bless America, theirs is the loudest and their plea to God made with every fiber of their being.

      Such an American Armenian is Richard Hekemian of New Jersey, a gentle man who is highly successful in his field, an outstanding philanthropist and humble to the extreme. He is chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Hekemian & Company, Inc., located in the prestigious Hekemian Building. He is also the chairman and CEO of First Real Estate Trust, a publicly-traded real estate company conceived by Sam Hekemian, his late father. This company, I believe, has more Armenian shareholders than any other publicly-traded company, just like his son, was an exemplary American citizen, always proud of being Armenian and helping all Armenian causes.

      One of Robert’s big passions has been education, which led him to Bergen Community College of New Jersey to try to help students who were unable to meet the high cost of higher education. This activity was so close to his heart that he gave a great deal of time, talent and funds in helping this community college become one of the best two-year colleges in New Jersey, with more than 15,000 students per semester. He was elected to serve as the director of the college’s Board of Directors from 1988 to 1993 and thereafter continues to serve as director emeritus. Last year the foundation recognized Robert’s “Meritorious Service” by presenting him the annual Medallion Award at a dinner attended by more than 400 Who’s Who in New Jersey names in education, politics, business, federal and state officials.

      The New York and New Jersey Armenian community is indeed extremely proud to see the “Hekemian” name emblazoned on a wing at Hackensack University Medical Center. He continues to give substantially and in a meaningful way is involved in this top university in New Jersey which is fifth in the US. No wonder this famous university which helps millions of patients each year, has recognized Robert’s leadership and elected him to be a member of the Board of Governors. He continues to serve in this prestigious position. It really is heartwarming and delightful to realize that a son of an Armenian has the honor to be a board member of this most prestigious hospital to help heal the sick, wounded, poor and the helpless.

      Robert established the Robert and Mary Jane Hekemian Foundation some 20 years ago and has been actively contributing to many important Armenian and American projects and equally important, participating as well in their activities. In addition, he is a member of the board of directors of many famous banks and real estate companies.

      Among the organizations to which his foundation generously donates are the New York Philharmonic, the Boy Scouts of America and the YMCA. It is very important to note that Robert and his foundation help an untold number of individuals and institutions anonymously.

      Robert Hekemian and the Armenian Missionary Association of America (AMAA) have been partners around the world to bring help, health, education and relief to Armenians in 27 countries worldwide. Robert strongly believes that the “M” in the AMAA stands for not a mission to convert Apostolic Church members to Evangelicals. The “M” for him, and the organization, stands for Mission to bring help and comfort to all Armenians who need relief from pain, suffering and seek education to succeed in life. This organization is simply a path keeper of their religious Christian beliefs and helps to direct the followers to live as noble American Armenians in America and Diaspora.

      As to his contributions to the Armenian community, his heartfelt and loving service to Armenia and the diaspora have led him to become a guest of the Vazken, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of Armenians a happy and blessed memory. He is a full supporter of all Armenian good causes. He speaks with enthusiasm at the mention of Haygazian University of Lebanon where so many Armenian young men and women receive a first-rate education. The AMAA has made possible this university to be the first Armenian University abroad and continues to serve with excellent reputation and full accreditation.

      He expresses deep sorrow and regret that the Armenian Presbyterian Church and the AMAA are often criticized for not being a “truly” Armenian entity. He constantly tries to point out that so many of us yield to the trivial and permit ourselves to be divided or misunderstood. We are, he says rightfully, one nation and worship one God in different fashions. This should not be cause for friction, division or discord. Instead, we all should try for God’s healing, uniting power and become “whole” for the sake of our existence as diaspora communities.

      In the vineyard of our community around the world, and especially in the Homeland, there should be no doubt that all Armenians, be they Apostolic, Protestant, Catholic or even agnostic should keep faith with our identity and God willing live free and happy in our Homeland Armenia and communities all across the world.

      (Nubar Dorian is a resident of New Jersey. He often writes about Armenian affairs.)

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      • #63
        Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

        Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
        I think Armenians are really exagerating the whole issue. What happened is not a big thing, ethnic Americans, ethnic xxxs, ethnic Dutch commit fraud worth billions of dollars, it's what happens everyday everywhere in the world.

        It's stupid that the Armenian media covers this story in the amount they do now, but it has it's reasons. Have you ever thought about why Armenians are getting bashed and why it's not a normal crime, but an Armenian crime?

        It's because the persons who are leading the media, who control the media (especially in America), want to give Armenians a bad name. They are fiercly anti-Armenian and ofcourse, it has political means.

        I am especially angry at the Armenian government for apologizing, because it's not their job to apologize for individuels. I have never read the Dutch government apologize for Dutch criminals abroad, or the Russian government apologizing for Russian criminals working in America, it's just an outrage, as if the Republic of Armenia is involved in it.


        And Kasparian is just a Turk pretending to be an Armenian, nothing more nothing less. And I secretly found it interesting the way the scam worked. But ah, Armenians are good in what they do, even if they are criminals. I am not ashamed, not even one milli-second.
        Couldn't have said it better.

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        • #64
          Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

          At least the mafia hasn't ruined our reputation in Europe. As EU citizen, I'm happy about this, EU and Armenian relations are not are very strong politically, but both people view each other favourably (as opposed to Turks for example). In America on the other hand I would argue people have more favourable view of Turks, Azeris over Armenians.

          Swiss people closer to Armenians than Turks, Charles Aznavour says

          October 21, 2010 | 22:31

          The word “Armenian” is associated with Charles Aznavour in Switzerland and it became popular more than 60 years ago. It is both surprising and pleasant, the French chansonnier of Armenian origin, Armenian Ambassador to Switzerland Charles Aznavour stated in an interview with Armedia.

          According to him, the Swiss are very close to Armenian people, just like the French are to Armenians in France. “Armenian politicians always maintain dignity in Switzerland or France. They are sincere, with a good sense of humor and this is very important in terms of a dialogue, and making impression on one’s country. The evidence thereof is the three Armenian Presidents. Armenian people are considered “exemplary Diaspora” in France. In Switzerland, Swiss people are closer to Armenians than they are to Turks,” he said.

          As to Armenia-Switzerland political cooperation, Aznavour stressed that the two states are on good terms and are improving bilateral relations. “Switzerland is one of the first states to recognize the Armenian Genocide, which they did in 2003. The recognition process in other countries was prolonged. Former French President Jacques Chirac significantly contributed to its recognition. He was a man of great influence outside France as well, this is the reason Switzerland followed their lead,” Aznavour concluded.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
          ---
          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          • #65
            Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

            Originally posted by Mos View Post
            every ethnic group has its criminals, mafia, etc.
            Every ethnic group does not have its own mafia-like criminal organisations. There is no ethnic French mafia, English mafia, Spanish mafia, etc. There are Italian, Mexican, Cuban, Chinese, Bulgarian, Romanian, Russian, Georgian, Armenian, etc., mafia-like groups, as well as groups with pseudo-ethnicities, like Gypsies.
            Plenipotentiary meow!

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            • #66
              Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Every ethnic group does not have its own mafia-like criminal organisations. There is no ethnic French mafia, English mafia, Spanish mafia, etc. There are Italian, Mexican, Cuban, Chinese, Bulgarian, Romanian, Russian, Georgian, Armenian, etc., mafia-like groups, as well as groups with pseudo-ethnicities, like Gypsies.
              As if, ethnic English, Frehcn, Spanish, etc don't have to have mafia, they sell weapons on a government level.

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              • #67
                Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

                Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                Every ethnic group does not have its own mafia-like criminal organisations. There is no ethnic French mafia, English mafia, Spanish mafia, etc. There are Italian, Mexican, Cuban, Chinese, Bulgarian, Romanian, Russian, Georgian, Armenian, etc., mafia-like groups, as well as groups with pseudo-ethnicities, like Gypsies.
                Haha, I have never heard such a stupid thing, but reading this I could guess it's written by a non-Armenian whose name goes by bell-the-cat.

                What is your definition of mafia anyway? In every country and in every ethnicity there are criminals, sometimes organized, which obey some rules, in essence, you can call a lot of things ''mafia'', but in reality, they are just gangsters, criminals. In France you for example got the Unione Corse. Also, British orginized crime is huge (there are groups who are involved in billions of pounds of fraud, who are involved in drug- and weapon industry), they are criminals, obey rules, and thus can be called mafia.

                Saying there is no ''mafia'' in some ethnicities is like saying there are no ''good'' people in other ethnicities. Your remark is just insane, racist and shows again your stance.

                Type the name Klaas Bruinsma, one of the biggest mafia bossess in The Netherlands, an ethnic Dutchman. But oh, maybe Dutch are different than, let's say British or French? Bell-the-cat, grow up. Tomorrow you are going to tell me there is democracy in Azerbaijan.
                Last edited by Tigranakert; 10-21-2010, 05:58 PM.

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                • #68
                  Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

                  Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
                  Haha, I have never heard such a stupid thing, but reading this I could guess it's written by a non-Armenian whose name goes by bell-the-cat.

                  What is your definition of mafia anyway? In every country and in every ethnicity there are criminals, sometimes organized, which obey some rules, in essence, you can call a lot of things ''mafia'', but in reality, they are just gangsters, criminals. In France you for example got the Unione Corse. Also, British orginized crime is huge (there are groups who are involved in billions of pounds of fraud, who are involved in drug- and weapon industry), they are criminals, obey rules, and thus can be called mafia.

                  Saying there is no ''mafia'' in some ethnicities is like saying there are no ''good'' people in other ethnicities. Your remark is just insane, racist and shows again your stance.

                  Type the name Klaas Bruinsma, one of the biggest mafia bossess in The Netherlands, an ethnic Dutchman. But oh, maybe Dutch are different than, let's say British or French? Bell-the-cat, grow up. Tomorrow you are going to tell me there is democracy in Azerbaijan.
                  You just love to reveal your stupidity, time after time after time. Shut your ignorant mouth or name me a single English mafia group. Mafiosi-type groups originate in, shelter within, and take advantage of, the cultural makeup of specific ethnic groups. "Organised crime" does not mean mafia-like organisations.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #69
                    Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    Shut your ignorant mouth or name me a single English mafia group. Mafiosi-type groups originate in, shelter within, and take advantage of, the cultural makeup of specific ethnic groups.
                    Wow, just like how feminazis take shelter in the labor government of the brits that pretty much forces feminism and socialism down the throats of every brit, or maybe the horrendously disgusting brit females, or perhaps the old stinky hairy vag!n of your cats?
                    Bell, don't post unless you support your statements with proof, otherwise you sound as ridiculous as the last part of the above statement.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Armenians Gangsters Charged With Largest Medicare Scam Ever

                      Oh yeah, why don't you go ahead and read about the Opium wars.
                      Seems like, at least at the time, the entire british empire was bent on selling drugs to China and fought a war just so it can continue to do so. Looks like the whole british royal family can be considered a mafia.

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