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  • That joke of a country called Armenia?

    A place for posting news items about stories that reveal high-level stupid behaviour in Armenia or the Armenian diaspora, and which make intelligent Armenians cringe with embarassment.

    Here is one to start off. It is a-holes like Alexander Amarian who threaten the country's gene pool with extinction!



    YEREVAN POLICE SAYS EMO MUSIC THREATENS COUNTRY'S "GENE POOL"
    by Gayane Abrahamyan

    EurasiaNet

    Dec 10 2010
    NY

    Following the suicide of a 15-year-old boy, police in the Armenian
    capital Yerevan are cracking down on adolescent fans of emo music,
    a derivative of punk rock that is known for angst-ridden lyrics.

    Armenian officials contend that emo aficionados undermine social
    stability. But some psychologists and rights activists caution that
    hauling tattooed teenagers off to police stations for questioning is
    a strategy destined to backfire.

    Emo -- a term derived from the word "emotional" -- music traces its
    origins back to the punk-rock movement of the late 1970s and early
    80s and the indie rock groups that followed it. Often tagged as
    a close relative of grunge music, it is long on expressing primal
    emotions, particularly about depression and loneliness, but without
    the sugar-coating of a pop ballad.

    In the West, emo music has entered the mainstream, but in Armenia it
    remains on the fringe.

    Emo culture first caught the attention of Armenian police with
    the October 19 suicide of one alleged emo fan, 15-year-old Gurgen
    Harutiunian, a resident of the city of Hrazdan, about 20 kilometers
    outside Yerevan. Harutiunian was found hanging from a bathroom pipe
    by the belt of his judo uniform.

    Police told EurasiaNet.org that they are reviewing "suspicious" emails
    Harutiunian had received before his death; some neighbors have linked
    the emails to the boy's decision to take his life.

    Emo culture, with its emphasis on depression, has been linked
    to several suicides in the United Kingdom. In the weeks since
    Harutiunian's death, Armenian police appear to have reached a similar
    conclusion.

    Yerevan public school students told EurasiaNet.org that police
    routinely visit their schools now to check the bags of those students
    who are wearing half-torn jeans, black gloves or other clothes in
    pink and black, and who have body piercings - a look considered
    typically emo.

    "We were told that they found a razor blade in a book belonging to
    one of the girls, and we were told that if we find out that there
    is an emo in the neighbourhood, we must tell our teachers," said one
    8th-grade student at Yerevan's Pushkin Secondary School.

    Parks, thought to be popular gathering spots for emo aficionados,
    are also under close surveillance. On November 18, five girls and two
    boys were detained in a Yerevan park called Children's Railway and
    taken to the central police station on suspicion of being emos. The
    park's fountains and tunnels are covered with emo symbols - bells,
    swords - and words ending in "emo."

    One of the girls, 17-year-old Isabella, claimed that police dragged
    her by her hair to the central police station, where she and the others
    were questioned for four hours about why they were wearing torn jeans
    and had body piercings. "We heard that people in non-traditional
    clothes, those who like rock music, are now being closely watched,
    and, so, does that mean that any minute we might be detained?"

    Isabella asked.

    No law prohibits people from being emos, but police have left little
    doubt that their tolerance for emo fans is in short supply. In a
    December 6 interview with the newspaper Hraparak, Armenian Chief
    of Police Alik Sargsian commented that "emos are dangerous" and can
    "distort our gene pool."

    "I do not like emos, in fact. I absolutely don't like them. I do not
    understand or accept them," said Sargsian.

    Some researchers agree that the police have reason to be concerned;
    emos "have to be fought against," said Alexander Amarian, director of
    the Center for Rehabilitation and Assistance to Victims of Destructive
    Cults.

    One emo adherent interviewed by EurasiaNet.org, however, contends that
    the police have no understanding of the emo subculture. Armenian emos,
    said 16-year-old Marine, are simply "different and not dangerous."

    "Whatever is said about suicides is not true," she said. "No one is
    forcing us; the thing is that our members are emotional and there
    have been cases when they attempted suicide. However, it's not like
    it is a mass phenomenon."

    In 2010, 13 of 38 teenage suicide attempts in Armenia proved fatal,
    according to Col. Nelly Durian, the deputy head of the police's
    department of juvenile affairs investigations. Only two of the cases,
    though, are believed to have any association with emos. For the past
    five years, the number of such attempts has been increasing on average
    by five cases per year, Durian added.

    Sensitivity about population numbers - and perceived threats to those
    numbers - runs deep in Armenia, but one human rights activist argues
    that the police crackdown on emos is "an expression of fascism." The
    school and park inspections are "just an excuse to threaten and silence
    somewhat active, non-party-affiliated, free youngsters," charged
    Mikayel Danielian, president of the Armenian Helsinki Association.

    In response, Armenian police spokesperson Armen Malkhasian rebutted
    that "the problem [of emo membership] exists and these are merely
    preventive measures."

    Some psychologists, though, believe that the police are going about
    their anti-emo campaign in public schools the wrong way.

    "It's something psychologists have to be seriously involved
    in," commented Arshak Gasparian, a psychologist at Yerevan's Avg
    psychological center. Police are not known to work with psychologists
    in their monitoring of schools. "Unfortunately, despite the fact that
    there are psychologist positions in our schools, the people holding
    those positions are specialized in fields other than psychology."

    Emo adherent Marine contends that if suicide is the real concern,
    authorities should focus on the Armenian army, which has experienced
    15 non-combat deaths - including two suicides, officially -- since
    July alone. "[S]uicide is quite common in the army; many people become
    victims of that every year," said Marine. "Let them focus intensively
    on the army rather than on us."

    Editor's note: Gayane Abrahamyan is a reporter for ArmeniaNow.com
    in Yerevan.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 12-21-2010, 07:31 PM.
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

    Idiot Amaryan seems to like the sound of his voice.

    Alexander Amaryan: Jehovah witnesses penetrate into political life of Armenia

    December 11, 2010 - 15:19 AMT 11:19 GMT
    PanARMENIAN.Net -

    Although Jehovah witnesses do not recognize statehood as such, they
    actively penetrate into various governmental structures with a purpose
    to undermine the state system from inside, director of the center of
    rehabilitation and help for the victims of destructive cults said.

    According to Alexander Amaryan, the Armenian authorities should take a
    tougher position on the issue.

    `Fearing reaction of international institutions, government agencies
    do not take proper action. Meanwhile, in France, which is a EU member,
    activity of Jehovah witnesses is strongly limited,' he said.

    For her part, psychologist Karine Nalchajyan advised not to pay much
    attention to the opinion of the European Union.

    `For a small county like Armenia, existence of about 300 thousand
    sectarians is disastrous. We had better think about self-preservation
    and take little notice of Europe,' she said.
    And now the whole world is laughing, and knows how juvenille things in Armenia can be, how village idiots get to be police chiefs and social commentators.

    RollingStone.com
    Dec 11 2010


    Armenian Authorities Cracking Down On Emo MusicPolice chief claims
    that musical genre can 'distort our gene pool'

    By Maura Johnston
    Dec 10, 2010 4:59 PM EST

    Authorities in the Armenian capital of Yerevan are reportedly putting
    pressure on young fans of the punk subculture emo, claiming that the
    music undermines social stability and that its emotionally wrenching
    content is causing teenagers to become suicidal.

    Students are claiming that the police are conducting wardrobe checks
    in schools and looking for torn jeans, body piercings and black
    gloves, as well as any clothing in the "emo colors" of pink and black.
    One told EurasiaNet.org that a rumor is going around that people who
    look like fans of rock music are being "closely watched"; it's a
    common tale of a subculture being targeted because of its
    unconventional look. (A 2009 piece on emo in Yerevan noted that there
    were between 20 and 25 teenage emos in Armenia at the time.) In 2010,
    13 of the 38 teenage suicide attempts across the country were
    successful, and only two of the teens involved are thought to have had
    any association with the emo subculture.

    "I do not like emos, in fact. I absolutely don't like them. I do not
    understand or accept them," Armenian Chief of Police Alik Sargsian
    said in an interview with a local newspaper earlier this month, as
    quoted by EurasiaNet. He also called them "dangerous" and said that
    they could "distort our gene pool."

    Another young emo said, "No one is forcing us; the thing is that our
    members are emotional and there have been cases when they attempted
    suicide. However, it's not like it is a mass phenomenon."

    In 2008, young fans of emo were under attack in both Mexico and Chile,
    although the antagonism came mainly from peers - not the authorities.
    In Mexico, the subculture was a popular target of fans of punk and
    rockabilly, and spurred on in part by the local on-air personality
    Kristoff, who would frequently go on rants against "emos." In Chile,
    where emo fans were referred to as PokEMOnes, skinheads attacked the
    fans.

    Armenia: Yerevan Police Says Emo Music Threatens Country's "Gene Pool"
    [EurasiaNet.org]


    And another:

    CDInsight
    Dec 12 2010


    Emos Not Welcome in Armenia
    Rolling Stone is reporting that Armenia doesn't like emos. Fans of the
    punk sub-culture are being targeted in the Armenian capital of
    Yerevan, and teens are being pressured to change their ways.

    Armenian authorities claim that the emo culture `undermines social
    stability and that its emotionally wrenching content is causing
    teenagers to become suicidal.' Students are being subjected to
    wardrobe checks where police are looking for torn jeans, body
    piercings, black gloves, as well as any clothing that is pink and
    black. Alik Sargsain, the Armenian Chief of Police, told a local
    newspaper `I do not like emos, in fact. I absolutely don't like that.
    I do not understand or accept them.' He also called them dangerous,
    and said that they could `distort our gene pool.'

    In 2010, there were 38 teenage suicide attempts in Yerevan, 13 of
    which were successful; only two of those teens had any association
    with the emo subculture.




    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 12-19-2010, 09:27 AM. Reason: Another report added
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    • #3
      Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

      Bell in this you are right i neither like emo's but dont think we dont have aryan organizations or people that into that stuff every country has them,members of it are usually people with low understanding.

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      • #4
        Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

        Every country has become a joke. In fact, the whole world is one big joke. If a Jehovah witness showed up at my front door standing beside an Emo, I'd be getting out my baseball bat and kindly asking them to get off my property before they permanently wear a Louisville Slugger tattoo.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #5
          Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          Every country has become a joke. In fact, the whole world is one big joke. If a Jehovah witness showed up at my front door standing beside an Emo, I'd be getting out my baseball bat and kindly asking them to get off my property before they permanently wear a Louisville Slugger tattoo.
          Hahaha best answer in the most awkward situation !!

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          • #6
            Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            Parks, thought to be popular gathering spots for emo aficionados,
            are also under close surveillance. On November 18, five girls and two
            boys were detained in a Yerevan park called Children's Railway and
            taken to the central police station on suspicion of being emos. The
            park's fountains and tunnels are covered with emo symbols - bells,
            swords - and words ending in "emo."

            One of the girls, 17-year-old Isabella, claimed that police dragged
            her by her hair to the central police station, where she and the others
            were questioned for four hours about why they were wearing torn jeans
            and had body piercings. "We heard that people in non-traditional
            clothes, those who like rock music, are now being closely watched,
            and, so, does that mean that any minute we might be detained?"
            The Goths at least had hot chicks. Emo freaks on the other hand are into self harm!
            Last edited by retro; 12-18-2010, 10:01 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              And now the whole world knows how juvenille things in Armenia can be, how village idiots get to be police chiefs and social commentators.
              Honesty is best policy.....no political correctness.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #8
                Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

                Dear fellow Armenian brothers and sisters, I would like to ask you to ignore bell_the_cats anti Armenian topics. As you know, he is not Armenian but for some reason learned about the Armenian history and culture just to denigrate it, just like Azeris and Turks do.

                He always finds some non interesting critical articles to show how bad Armenia is, and makes big generalizations. As you can see by his dirty statement, "no wonder why everybody with sense wants to leave Armenia". He comes to this conclusion by a statement by some persons, he read in some articles, as he is ofcourse the defender of the Gays, Emos, Azeris, Turks, and everything else a bit different from traditional Armenian culture.

                Who are you to talk about our culture and our country? Tell me the name of your backward country and I will tell you things thousand times worse. Armenia is a civilized country with high family values which you can be jealous of.

                I think it is time to figure out who bell_the_cat is, where he comes from and where he lives.

                Look at the title of the topic for God sake, you naive Armenians! Do not accept this from a NON ARMENIAN!!! It is not his country he is always denigrating, but ours.

                Pathetic person, do you dare to say this in real life? I would love to meet you one day.
                Last edited by Tigranakert; 12-19-2010, 04:57 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

                  That culture is disgusting, let the police to what they want....good riddance....
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                  ---
                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                  • #10
                    Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

                    I wish my lawn was Emo so it would cut itself.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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