Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

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[Vahram]

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This is a major show of force, this is not a joke. Having players like Russia, Belarus is a given, but Kazaks on Armenian soil put out a huge single to anyone in the area making a mistake against the alliance. Kazakhstan is not the only Stan in the mix, but they are the most important Stan. This was not just Armenia saying we have an alliance, this is the alliance saying we have an alliance! The UAV’s are the best answer to what Armenia can do on it’s own and guess what it is a very valuable thing to contribute not only to Armenia but the alliance.

Now I would love to know what it means when the Russian DM says we transferred “We are transferring about 10 facilities to the Armenian side” Could these be the very same facilities transferred to Russia for payment of debt? Now they are being transferred back because they realize that it does them more good if we are in charge of these facilities? What ever these 10 facilities are not something small, you know it is something major! A facility is a tangible asset it is not mobile! Trust me I know I am a facilities guy and I know my trade very well thank you! Armenia was always top notch when it came to doing things! The UAV’s are a fine example of this, now add another 10 facilities to the mix what is next?

This also states Armenia’s position in this alliance, as it is an important member. There are other things afoot like when American’s leave Afghanistan everyone in the area knows what will wait. In addition to other geopolitical sound reasons that keeps this diverse alliance coordinated and focused. This is one of the best things that has happened to us in a long time. Given this alliance against big players pushing their little weight around Armenia is going to get even more powerful. Give these facilities a few years, then turn to me as say what Armenia can do.

[burjuin]

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[Vahram]

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So it’s been 20 years of stability and being a good reliable partner. No color revelations no rose this and that with fake leaders. So this brings us to another question, where is Georgia?...LOL

Let me guess the Stalin mofo’s cozying up to toorks all over again. Give me Kazakhstan over these back stabbing untrustable feck ups of human kind. Any day any time! After all what are they doing now eating their ties?...ROTF!!

What more do you want me to say?

ROTFLMAO

[Hakob]

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The last picture from left to right. The first one I cannot tell, but the silenser looks like Russian or Armenian made, so it must be a 30cal(7.62mm). The second one is an A.I.(Accuracy International) AE or AW series with 338 Lapua Magnum(which I hope this one is) or 50cal. The third one appears to be a Polish WKW Wilk Tor 12.7mm anti-materiel rifle. The fourth looks like a Barrett (with a distinct muzzlebrake) 50 cal. I have seen them in NKR military show pictures and think that both Armenia and NKR have them all plenty. How do you think azeris got silenced so quickly and brutally last summer?
International markets are flooded with excellennt rifles like theese very cheap ($5-10K). The key is the handler's(sniper's) quality. I hope that our govenment does everything to train topline snipers.
While traditionally soviet military doctrine did not spend a lot of money and time training soldiers, the west spent all the expences and time making snipers perfect.
A good sniper can hit targets at as far away as 3000 meters and is woth a few platons(zvods) of regulars. They can stop enemy movement for hours by taking out commanders and putting the enemy in confusion and panic(in azery case multiply that tenfold) without being seen. Or they can easily take out infiltrators, disrupt communications. In one zinuj clip i saw, it was talked that our snipers can hit a target the size of matchbox in 1000meters at night. That is an international topline.

[ArmeniaR1]

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Did we use the scud,tochka or s-300 in this exercise?

[gokorik]

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http://news.am/eng/news/121518.html

Picture one left to right
Truvelo 12.7 http://www.google.com/imgres?q=truve...9,r:3,s:0,i:82
Zastava M-93

Picture 2 left to right
Zastava M-93
modified AK-74
modified AK-74
Brugger & Thomet APR (308 or 338 Lapua) http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-r...-apr-33-e.html

Picture 3 left to right
Brugger & Thomet APR (308 or 338 Lapua)
Accuracy International Arctic warfare (300 Win Mag or 338 Lapua)
Truvelo 12.7
Zastava M-93

Picture 4 left to right
Brugger & Thomet APR (308 or 338 Lapua)
Accuracy International Arctic warfare (300 Win Mag or 338 Lapua)

I have not seen the Truvelo 12.7 or the Brugger & Thomet APR before at Armenian presentations but I have seen a picture of the Truvelo with Russian special forces. The rest have been present at Armenian presentations.

[gokorik]

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WHAT is that white rocket on the right of the screen at 1:50!!!!! That warhead is huge!! For some reference the rocket on the left of the screen is the S-24 which has a 125kg warhead. Doesn't look very aerodynamic but a 10 km range is significant if(probably is) its deployed in Artsakh. Definitely Armenian made.

[burjuin]

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The CSTO Collective Rapid Reaction Force’s “Cooperation 2012” joint multinational military exercise in Armenia.

[haydavid]

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The question now is ;

Is OTAN better than the CSTO ?
In :
-equipement
-arms
-military experience
-countries participating ( if they are "good at wars" or not)
-solidarity ( if one country fight , how will the other react ? Will they fight 100% or only fight because of the obligation ...)

If anyone can compare those , it will be very nice !

Thanks !!!