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  • #16211
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    These launchers do not fire on the run, but rather have to stop and configure to launch sequence.
    Our military most assuredly tries to keep track of all such enemy equipment placements.
    What I meant was ... We put enough heat on their positions that they run away from these mrl's and we take possession.
    Military operation with no need for turc speaking or boat loads of interpreters.
    Precise military strikes by air force and army is what's needed.
    If these multiple rocket launchers need to be within 50 miles of their intended target, you can bet our military is targeting them.
    Ever heard of a baboon running away from a battle and leaving their military assets behind?
    I was implying that we do it without the military and not during a war... Thus requiring a group sneak into the country, somehow, and blend in on its way to the "military base".
    Just wondering how does our military keep eyes on these launcher? I guess informants on the ground is a possibility,maybe the Russians..

    I disagree if your saying Armenia can track these launchers, round the clock, in real time, for us to hit them before they launch(unless Russains provide satellite info in real time). After launch is another story and Armenia has Totchka and AR1A with enough range and accuracy to hit them in theory. The problem is its hard to narrow down the exact location when the distances are grater than 30-50 km, depending on your counter battery radar... On top of it the Smerch was made to shoot and scoot.
    RUSSIAN FEDERAL STATE UNITARY ENTERPRISE "SPLAV STATE RESEARCH and PRODUCTION ASSOCIATION"
    Smerch
    Setup- 3min
    Launch- 38 sec
    Urgent pack up- 1min

    So if you believe Armenia can see them before launch that gives us right under 5min, once they stop, to get munitions on target.
    If you believe that Armenia can't see them until they launch, that gives us 1min and 40 seconds to get munitions on target before they leave.

    And yes, I have hear of the "baboons" being impotent a billion times over. I still believe never underestimate your opponent.
    Last edited by gokorik; 07-08-2014, 12:58 AM. Reason: spelling

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    • #16212
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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      • #16213
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        • #16214
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by gokorik View Post
          I was implying that we do it without the military and not during a war... Thus requiring a group sneak into the country, somehow, and blend in on its way to the "military base".
          Just wondering how does our military keep eyes on these launcher? I guess informants on the ground is a possibility,maybe the Russians..

          I disagree if your saying Armenia can track these launchers, round the clock, in real time, for us to hit them before they launch(unless Russains provide satellite info in real time). After launch is another story and Armenia has Totchka and AR1A with enough range and accuracy to hit them in theory. The problem is its hard to narrow down the exact location when the distances are grater than 30-50 km, depending on your counter battery radar... On top of it the Smerch was made to shoot and scoot.
          RUSSIAN FEDERAL STATE UNITARY ENTERPRISE "SPLAV STATE RESEARCH and PRODUCTION ASSOCIATION"
          Smerch
          Setup- 3min
          Launch- 38 sec
          Urgent pack up- 1min

          So if you believe Armenia can see them before launch that gives us right under 5min, once they stop, to get munitions on target.
          If you believe that Armenia can't see them until they launch, that gives us 1min and 40 seconds to get munitions on target before they leave.

          And yes, I have hear of the "baboons" being impotent a billion times over. I still believe never underestimate your opponent.
          If you read my post you would see I said ... Our military --- TRIES --- to keep track of enemy assets.
          Do you disagree?
          Above is said ... Do not underestimate the enemy.
          How about not underestimating us.
          Satellites and/or Russian help (no other way???)
          Wrong, but I wouldn't say how on a PUBLIC forum.
          As I said before ... You can bet we are trying to keep track of these mlr's.
          That is indisputable.

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          • #16215
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            .

            I think the best way to handle the threat is to underline the retaliation that they will get.
            Not only strike back at their firing locations but strike at will at any target we see fit.
            Be it military, economic, infrastructure, logistic etc.

            If our population centres are targeted we should swiftly retaliate back against their population centres
            with the intention of creating refugee problems AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

            Our plan and aim should be on the table for them to see and not think we are bluffing.
            The aim is not war mongering but the deter them from any stupid action which they will regret.

            As far as tracking their artillery MRLS etc I am sure our army has methods in place but by definition
            these assets are very mobile and can be fired from very well protected locations and deep in their territory.

            As far as help from the Russians the more time passes I am getting more disillusioned with their actions and our treatment.

            Russian’s grand strategy is to dominate the energy supply field.
            It is their only lever of influence that they have.
            The countries that can undermine its ambitions in this area are Iran and Azerbaijan.

            Currently Russia is trying to bribe Azerbaijan, intention being to dovetail Azerbaijan's resources to its grand strategy.
            In the process it is blackmailing Armenia to use Karabagh as its bargaining chip. Its very ominous.

            .
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • #16216
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Good ideas from everyone and I think they can be combined.

              Small drones (which we have) combined with our spies it might be possible to put a tracking device on these vehicles or maybe special forces using laser guide devices "marking" from distance the Smerchs for our SU-25s even if they are on the move....they may launch a few if that was imminent anyway, BUT if exact locations are relayed back to the jets, firing the proper missile guided missiles will take them out with guns blazing too once visual and all this before their air to air defenses can respond properly......With all missiles fired the SU-25 can fly close to Mach 1.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #16217
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                Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army






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                • #16218
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                  Armenian Army
                  Special Forces




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                  • #16219
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Three Azerbaijani soldiers are wounded - Times.am
                    http://times.am/?p=44042&l=en
                    Three soldiers of the Azerbaijani Army were injured, Azerbaijani Press Agency writes about this. According to the source, they are wounded due to careless handling of a grenade. Azerbaijani Defense Ministry’s press service informed that the incident occurred during the military exercises on July 8. As a result of careless handling of a grenade Hashimli […]


                    Three Azerbaijani soldiers are wounded
                    Today - 09:48

                    Three soldiers of the Azerbaijani Army were injured, Azerbaijani Press Agency writes about this. According to the source, they are wounded due to careless handling of a grenade.

                    Azerbaijani Defense Ministry’s press service informed that the incident occurred during the military exercises on July 8.

                    As a result of careless handling of a grenade Hashimli Bahram Maharram, Mammadov Orkhan Allahverdi and Aghalarzada Rahimagha Asgar were slightly injured.

                    The injured were given first medical aid and placed in the Ganja (Gandzak) garrison hospital.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #16220
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      More in Recent days:

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                      [ 04 July 2014 10:35 ]
                      Baku. Hafiz Heydarov - APA. Two servicemen of Azerbaijani Army were wounded as Armenian army units violated ceasefire.

                      The Defense Ministry’s press service told APA that 19-year-old soldier Hasanov Nurlan Azer, drafted from Berde region, was wounded as a result of the ceasefire violation by Armenian armed units on July 3. He is in satisfactory condition.

                      25-year old warrant officer of Naghiyev Anar Talib, drafted from Kazakh region, was wounded by the Armenians tonight. He is in critical but stable condition.

                      and…

                      Armenians wound soldier of Azerbaijani Army
                      [ 03 July 2014 10:24 ]
                      Baku. Hafiz Heydarov - APA. A soldier of Azerbaijani Army was wounded as the Armenian army units violated ceasefire.

                      Defense Ministry’s press service told APA that soldier of Azerbaijani Army, Mammadov Elsever Hasan, 18, was wounded by the enemy.

                      The soldier, who was drafted from Lachin region, is in satisfactory condition.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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