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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Absolutely argin.......we don't forget to revenge and honor our warriors lost but Baboons seem to have a short memory.
    B0zkurt Hunter


    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Target locked....Firing missile1

      one Azeri jet down
      B0zkurt Hunter


      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        i wonder what we want from CZ


        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by argin View Post
          we getting great news lately,hopefully it will continue throughout 2016 and beyond ,for the anniversary of the helicopter shoot down, our forces should do something extraordinary to give Azeris a taste of revenge and show we don't forgot our long gone troops.
          ashkov tvar... nothing but bad news today from Russia partnering up with Turkey to the Perincek case.


          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
            ashkov tvar... nothing but bad news today from Russia partnering up with Turkey to the Perincek case.
            Generally please provide links to such news.

            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests


            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Armenian Army


              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                Generally please provide links to such news..
                I normally do however I posted that while on my phone.

                Here's another source:

                Russia ready to work with Turkey on fighting terror: Lavrov

                Russia says it is ready for close cooperation with Turkey in the battle against terrorism following the recent deadly explosions in the Turkish capital, Ankara.

                “We are ready for very close cooperation and very close engagement with the Turkish authorities in the fight against the terrorist threat,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said during a conference on Russian-Turkish partnership in Moscow.

                On October 10, twin blasts targeted a number of activists who had convened outside Ankara’s main train station for a peace rally organized by leftist and pro-Kurdish opposition groups. The Turkish government says 97 died in the bombings, but the pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) puts the death toll at 128.

                Turkish politician 'had right to deny' Armenia genocide: court

                Strasbourg (France) (AFP) - The European Court of Human Rights ruled on Thursday that a Turkish politician should not have been prosecuted for denying that the mass killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turkey in 1915 was a genocide.

                In a landmark free speech ruling, the ECHR judges ruled by 10 votes to seven that Dogu Perincek, chairman of Turkey's Patriotic Party, should never have been convicted of racial discrimination by a Swiss court for saying that the "Armenian genocide is a great international lie".

                Perincek was convicted and fined in 2007 after a series of press conferences on the topic, which the ECHR ruled was an infringement on his right to free speech.

                In its judgement, the court said Perincek's statements related to an issue of "public interest and did not amount to a call for hatred or intolerance... and could not be regarded as affecting the dignity of the members of the Armenian community to the point of requiring a criminal law response".

                The court made a clear distinction with Holocaust denial, whose specific history meant it could always be "seen as a form of incitement to racial hatred" in certain countries.

                Its judges have earlier noted that the historical facts of the Holocaust, "such as the existence of gas chambers" were "considered clearly established by an international jurisdiction".

                Turkey has always denied that the killings, which started in 1915, were a pre-meditated attempt by the then-ruling Ottomans to wipe out the Armenians.

                It says 500,000 died, not 1.5 million as claimed by Armenia.

                Before the mass killings, some two million Armenians were living in the territory of the Ottoman Empire.

                More than 20 nations have so far recognised the killings as genocide, a definition supported by numerous historians but vehemently opposed by Turkey.

                In a series of press conferences in Switzerland in 2005, Perincek repeatedly blamed "imperialists from the West and from Tsarist Russia" for stoking tensions between Muslims and Armenians in order to undermine the Ottoman Empire, and said the resulting deaths were not a premeditated attempt to wipe out an ethnic group.

                The Swiss side argued that denying that a genocide occurred is tantamount to "accusing the Armenians of falsifying history, one of the worst forms of racial discrimination".

                - 'Falsifying history' -

                Geoffrey Robertson, the high-profile British lawyer representing Armenia, said the Swiss authorities were wrong to prosecute Perincek, but only because he is "a worthless provocateur".

                The ruling contained good news for Armenia, Robertson said, because it clearly stated they have "a right to respect for their history".

                "And it clears the way for that to be protected in Europe against any real incitement to violence, hatred or intolerance," Robertson said.

                The ECHR said it did not have the authority to rule on whether the Armenian killings were a genocide or not, which was a job for international criminal courts.

                It also accepted that "the dignity of the victims and the dignity and identity of modern-day Armenians were protected by Article 8" of the European Convention on Human Rights.

                But it ruled that in the specific circumstances of the case, a democratic society should not have gone as far as prosecuting Perincek over his comments.

                "The context in which they were made had not been marked by heightened tensions or special historical overtones in Switzerland," the ruling said.

                "The Swiss courts appeared to have censured Mr Perincek simply for voicing an opinion that diverged from the established ones in Switzerland," it added.

                The ECHR's Grand Chamber ruling is final and binding on all Council of Europe members.

                Perincek's lawyer Laurent Pech has earlier said that his client "neither contested nor defended the massacres," but merely denied that the Ottoman authorities of the time had a genocidal intention.


                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
                  ashkov tvar... nothing but bad news today from Russia partnering up with Turkey to the Perincek case.
                  Oh god damn


                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Those news above...
                    What would you expect from European j.. Dominated court?
                    This comes to show how much human value Europe has.

                    The second. About Russia calling turkey to cooperate against Isis, so Turks will work with Russians to destroy what they have helped to create?
                    Russians are laughing at Turks as well as at USA.


                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      "Russians are laughing at Turks as well as at USA. "
                      Don't forget Europe lol.
                      Hayastan or Bust.