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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Armenias end game should be like Iceland. Jail the corrupt politicians. Militarily should be like Israel, except not bomb our neighbors and have a dream to expand world wide as far as we can. We need to inform our neighbors that our foreign policy is based on International Law , we don't like wars and we want to focus on our economy.. In times of war Armenia will always have its defenders. But we need to keep our men and women in the country. Keep the minds at work in Armenia for the better of Armenia. It's only when we are strong economically that we demand whatever it is. At the moment take a look at us. We got no voice , no friends. Lastly the Government needs to open the country to the diaspora if they want Armenia to succeed. Armenia is a great place for business , but not when your being taxed at western percentages and given headaches because a ministers son etc is in that field.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
      Armenias end game should be like Iceland. Jail the corrupt politicians. Militarily should be like Israel, except not bomb our neighbors and have a dream to expand world wide as far as we can. We need to inform our neighbors that our foreign policy is based on International Law , we don't like wars and we want to focus on our economy.. In times of war Armenia will always have its defenders. But we need to keep our men and women in the country. Keep the minds at work in Armenia for the better of Armenia. It's only when we are strong economically that we demand whatever it is. At the moment take a look at us. We got no voice , no friends. Lastly the Government needs to open the country to the diaspora if they want Armenia to succeed. Armenia is a great place for business , but not when your being taxed at western percentages and given headaches because a ministers son etc is in that field.
      Your post does not reflect your username.. Armenia will not play nice. We must be armed to the teeth and ready to give it to whoever wants. Look in our history when Turks would hold up swords we would hold up crosses. International Diplomacy is dead. Countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia do whatever the hell they want without any criticism or consequences. Armenia needs to continue its current path of becoming something other than it's strategic geographical location..

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Sarkis86 View Post
        Highlights:

        At the end of the day, Russia remains Armenia's one and only ally and Russia is the only nation on earth that would militarily intervene to save Armenia from being runover by Turks or Islamists. Armenians therefore need to stop seeing the world in black and white terms;
        Sounds like the author is thinking black and white......lets be Russian slaves, at least we live right?

        islamists will not run over Armenia and without Armenia as a wedge against Turkish expansion to Baku.......If Armenia is ever run over by Turks it will become a great danger to Russia and Iran. It would be almost a check mate on Russia. Without us Russia will be in big trouble in every which way. Iran surrounded by NATO bases and guess what will happen......NATO bases between Iran and Russia on Armenian lands who are fighting a insurgency war run by professional soldiers
        against the Turks in Armenia. .
        B0zkurt Hunter

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
              Your post does not reflect your username.. Armenia will not play nice. We must be armed to the teeth and ready to give it to whoever wants. Look in our history when Turks would hold up swords we would hold up crosses. International Diplomacy is dead. Countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia do whatever the hell they want without any criticism or consequences. Armenia needs to continue its current path of becoming something other than it's strategic geographical location..
              My username is something that I believed in at the time. We no longer could use the same tactics as we would be painted as the same color as IS. But I believe we need to get over the war thinking and think of economy. I'm not saying let's not have an Army. Instead of the same excuse that we need weapons to protect Armenia then later revealed that the weapon money goes elsewhere and not towards the economy is disgusting. A rich country could buy what it wants and say what it wants. Its not all about Military. We need to keep people in the country instead of them thinking out.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                16 / 04 / 2016

                Հիմա Ալիեւին ակտիվ գործողություններ են պետք. նա սպասելու է հարձակման 2-րդ փորձը կատարելու առիթին



                Քաղաքագետ Հրանտ Մելիք-Շահնազարյանը ֆեյսբուքի իր էջում գրել է.

                Իրականում Ադրբեջանի իշխանություններն այսօր բավական բարդ իրավիճակում են հայտնվել. փորձել են ռազմական խնդիր լուծել՝ բանակցությունների ընթացքում իրենց գերակայությունը ցույց տալու համար, բայց դա չի հաջողվել: Սա նշանակում է, որ բանակցություններ լինելու պարագայում գործընթացն իրենց ցանկացած տրամաբանությամբ չի ընթանալու եւ Ադրբեջանն այլեւս չի կարողանալու ռազմական գործողությունները չվերսկսելը որպես զիջում ներկայացնել եւ դրա դիմաց ինչ-որ բան պահանջել: Հետեւաբար հիմա Ալիեւին ակտիվ գործողություններ են պետք, նա սպասելու է հարձակման երկրորդ փորձը կատարելու առիթին, որպեսզի իրենց համար քիչ թե շատ դրական արդյունքներ ապահովի

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Commander of our SF who tried to liberate the captured position,....

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                  20:41 | Ապրիլ 14 2016

                  Երկու տանկի աջակցությամբ մտանք դիրք, ազատագրեցինք այն. Մեր դիպուկահարը ոչնչացրեց խրամուղուց կրակող թշնամուն, հետո…. պատմում է փոխգնդապետ Վարդանյանը


                  Ապրիլի 1-ի լույս 2-ի գիշերը ադրբեջանական բանակը, օգտագործելով օդուժ, ռեակտիվ հրետանի եւ ծանր զրահատեխնիկա, դիմել է բացահայտ հարձակողական գործողությունների ԼՂՀ հարավային ուղղությամբ: Տասնյակ անգամ գերազանցող հետեւակի ուժերով նա գրոհել է հարավարեւելյան ուղղությամբ տեղակայված պաշտպանական շրջանի մարտական դիրքերը: Միավորման բարձրաստիճան սպաները, որ քառօրյա պատերազմի ժամանակ ամենաթեժ կետերում էին, պատմում են, թե ինչպես են գործել մեր ստորաբաժանումները:

                  Հայզինվորի հետ զրույցում միավորման բաժանմունքի պետ, փոխգնդապետ Վ. Գրիգորյանը պատմել է. Հակառակորդի գերազանցող ուժերի հարվածը իրենց վրա են վերցրել նաեւ հատուկ նշանակության ստորաբաժանման զինծառայողները: Նրանք ամենավտանգավոր հատվածներում աջակցել են դիրքապահներին: Հակառակորդը զրահատեխնիկայի մեծ քանակի կիրառմամբ մարտական դիրքեր էր գրավել` յուրաքանչյուրի ուղղությամբ կենտրոնացնելով մի քանի տանկ, ՀՄՄ: Մենք խնդիր ստացանք ազատագրելու հիմնական պահող դիրքը:

                  Մեզ հետ էր նաեւ միավորման հրամանատարի տեղակալ, գնդապետ Արարատ Մելքումյանը: Երկու տանկի աջակցությամբ մտանք դիրք, ազատագրեցինք այն: Ինչպե՞ս: Մեր դիպուկահարը ոչնչացրեց խրամուղուց կրակող թշնամուն, այնուհետեւ անձնակազմը առաջացավ եւ աջ ու ձախ ուղղություններով նռնակներ նետելով` ոչնչացրեց դիրքում հաստատված հակառակորդին: Մյուսները փախուստի դիմեցին: Բարձունքի հետեւում հակառակորդը մեծ թվով տեխնիկա է կենտրոնացրել: Երբ դրանք նորից շարժվեցին դիրքի ուղղությամբ, մենք ստիպված էինք նահանջել: Մենք նախընտրեցինք փրկել մեր տղաների կյանքը: Այժմ էլ այդ դիրքի թիկունքում մեծ քանակությամբ զրահատեխնիկա կա:

                  Սա իմ երկրորդ պատերազմն է: Հակառակորդը չի փոխվել, բայց պետք է արձանագրենք, որ նրա տեխնիկական միջոցները ավելացել են, գերժամանակակից են: Մեկ դիրք գրավելու համար նրանք ահռելի քանակությամբ տեխնիկա ու մարդ են կենտրոնացրել: Սա եւս մարտավարություն է: Իմ տղաների համար հրետանու, տանկերի ներգրավվածությամբ առաջին մարտական գործողությունն էր: Ինչ ասեմ`կեցցե՛ն իմ տղաները, նրանց գերակշիռ մասը երիտասարդներ են, նրանք միանգամից հարմարվեցին իրավիճակին: Իմ տղաները, ի տարբերություն հակառակորդի հատուկջոկատայինների, պատրաստ են ճակատ ճակատի կռվելու: Բոլորն էլ այս պահին դիրք են պահում, դիտակետերում են: Այսօր պետք է ավելի աչալուրջ լինենք, ավելի շատ դիտարկումներ կատարենք: Պետք է նաեւ եզրակացություններ անենք:

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                    The good thing with 3 year old boys is, that no matter how they try not to, they end up telling what's in their mind
                    I hope everyone who follows this thread, including the Armenians who follow the thread but don't post anything, realized what just happened here:

                    The author of the article I posted presented a premise (Armenians need to take advantage of Russia because Armenia and Russia have overlapping interests against common enemies, Armenia cannot survive at this point in time without Russian protection from Turkey and Azerbaijan), and the author backed that premise with factual data (genocidal Turkey and Azerbaijan would not hesitate to destroy relatively tiny and poor Armenia if Russian protection was removed, Armenians are well-positioned to push Moscow to remove the Turkic-Islamic-western threat from the Caucasus once and for all by strengthening Armenia and Artsakh). This is a valid, logical argument supported by the facts. The people behind the "vrej1915" account have their own pro-western, anti-Russian agenda they want to push (basically an Armenian saakashvili with a CIA-backed regime change). But unfortunately for the people behind the "vrej1915" account, their pro-west and pro-NATO(Turkey) and anti-Russian agenda doesn't have any actual rational basis for support, so they resorted to ad hominem attacks (name calling). Anyone paying attention to Armenian issues will easily recognize this tactic, because it is the default tactic used by those who peddle lies. The most pressing example of ad hominems in Armenian issues is when Armenians demand genocide recognition and reparations, the Turks immediately resort to name-calling, lies, and threats because Turks do not have any facts to support their claims. The same thing happens when Armenians argue for Artsakh's right to self-determination: Armenians present evidence (Artsakh was historically Armenian from ancient times; NKR legally and democratically declared independence from the Soviet Union in 1991; Armenians cannot submit to rule by entity that openly calls for their genocide and declares axe murderers as national heroes; and that self-determination is the very essence of democracy), and Azeris respond with name-calling, lies, and threats.

                    To cut things short, let me state on behalf of the author that ad hominems and other insults from idiots (and from traitors) are like badges of honor. When Turks, Azeris, and their NATO allies and agents are targeting you for insults and attacks, then you can be sure you are doing something to damage their agenda against Armenia!
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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                      But in saying that what ASALA accomplished , was just amazing. They put the Armenian Genocide on the world stage. Could you do it today ? No. What's important today is the building of Armenia. I lived in Armenia for 6 months , had some business plans and wanted to live there. I got a lot of headaches. I'm not going into it but Armenia has so much potential but sadly not everyone can see the light.

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