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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    What he says is classic truths almost text book staff.

    However if we apply the principles of neutrality which he advocates to the Russian behaviour a contradictory picture emerges.

    Just to remind Russia has said they will supply weapons to both sides but they will decide what weapons and when supplied ..... we are still waiting.

    Unfortunately the interviewer failed to challenge him on that crucial point.

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    Text book or not, he approaches the situation with logic rather than patriotic feelings, or biased views. You are right about Russia deciding what kind of weapons they should supply, and when they should supply them. But again, Russia makes those decisions based on its own self-interests (as they should). The point is that Armenians should somehow figure out what we can do as a nation - politically, economically, and socially - that will increase our importance to Russia, without sacrificing our own self-interests and independence.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post
      Text book or not, he approaches the situation with logic rather than patriotic feelings, or biased views.
      Agree

      You are right about Russia deciding what kind of weapons they should supply, and when they should supply them.
      But again, Russia makes those decisions based on its own self-interests (as they should).
      Should they?

      The whole point of his effort was point out that a mediator should not have a self-interest.


      The point is that Armenians should somehow figure out what we can do as a nation - politically, economically, and socially - that will increase our importance to Russia, without sacrificing our own self-interests and independence.
      I go along with that.

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      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        The source of the "rumor" is his own ass who just wants attention. AK105, if you want to troll you can go troll elsewhere.
        Don't go off on him just yet. Initially I thought this was BS as well, but I just verified from a very reliable source that indeed there is a troop buildup in Nakhichevan. This was also announced by some official Armenian government sources. I'm trying to get the source and I will share it here once I receive it.

        Update:

        Here are the sources Federate

        http://lorinews.am/lrahos/8465-naxij...-hraparak.html

        http://www.irates.am/hy/1461875430
        Last edited by AbuSindi; 04-29-2016, 05:44 AM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Ak105 View Post
          There are rumors of a large azeri army gathering in naxchjevan. This could be an assault on Yerevan
          Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post
          Don't go off on him just yet. Initially I thought this was BS as well, but I just verified from a very reliable source that indeed there is a troop buildup in Nakhichevan. This was also announced by some official Armenian government sources. I'm trying to get the source and I will share it here once I receive it.

          Update:

          Here are the sources Federate

          http://lorinews.am/lrahos/8465-naxij...-hraparak.htmlhttp://www.irates.am/hy/1461875430
          Heh well then, I'm sorry AK105

          No but seriously, those two websites are not even close to being official. Armenia's news sphere on the Internet is flooded with these type of sensationalist websites. Not that a troop buildup would necessarily even means anything like an invasion, it's usually exercises.
          Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post

            Should they?

            The whole point of his effort was point out that a mediator should not have a self-interest.

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            Yes and no. They should look out for their self interests. But you are right, as a mediator they should remain neutral. However, they are not remaining neutral and are arming both sides. Since they are blatantly doing this and will continue to do so regardless of what we think, our only option is to play along and try to tilt the odds in our favor where their relationship with Armenia becomes more valuable than that of Azerbaijan. I completely get what you're saying though.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Artsrun Hovhannisyan says there's no buildup in that article.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                Heh well then, I'm sorry AK105

                No but seriously, those two websites are not even close to being official. Armenia's news sphere on the Internet is flooded with these type of sensationalist websites. Not that a troop buildup would necessarily even means anything like an invasion, it's usually exercises.
                I'm guessing the official source is "գյուղապետ" Radik Oghikyan?

                I know these websites aren't official. When I said it was announced by government sources I was just telling you what I was told.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  If they do something stupid from Nakhichevan, it will be an opportunity for us to invade it and start using the Iran-Armenia railway.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    the nakhichevan topic has been beaten to death several times. Nobody is going to invade anybody. A few skirmishes maybe along the border to divert and confuse from other military operations in other regions, but there wont be any serious war.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                      If they do something stupid from Nakhichevan, it will be an opportunity for us to invade it and start using the Iran-Armenia railway.
                      They're stupid, but not that stupid. Actually you never know with these idiots. I hope they try something. Nakhichevan would be ours. I don't think they will though.

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